On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:18:34 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

much snipped

Our regulators don't care since _customers_ don't pay for roaming;
that's a problem for the carriers to hash out between themselves.

Really, so I can get a refund for that $1/minute I was charged when
roaming in the USA last year?

My own choice of voice carrier (Virgin) was made because their
International Roaming was about half the price of others.

That's just not a consideration here for several reasons, some good and
some bad.

So if you went on holiday to France, the cost of calling would be the
same irrespective of which network you were with?

OTOH, I do remember the days of paying roaming charges on my 1G phone
even a few miles from home.

I remember the stories, like people being charged vast roaming fees to
call from (eg) Minneapolis to St Paul.

If you have an out of country phone in either Canada or the United
States, the roaming costs to go to the other country are noticeable.
I'm going to pay 40 dollars of 100 minutes of air time in the US for
one month so that I don't get hit with really bad roaming charges.
Within either the US or Canada, most carriers are nationwide so far as
roaming is concerned.

Clark Morris

In message , at 12:59:18 on
Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Clark F Morris remarked:
If you have an out of country phone in either Canada or the United
States, the roaming costs to go to the other country are noticeable.
I'm going to pay 40 dollars of 100 minutes of air time in the US for
one month so that I don't get hit with really bad roaming charges.

Is that a special tariff that allows cheaper overseas roaming if you pay
so much for domestic airtime?

In the UK, a typical plan will be 200 domestic minutes and virtually
unlimited texts, and virtually unlimited calls to the same mobile
network - for about $20.

Within either the US or Canada, most carriers are nationwide so far as
roaming is concerned.

I'm getting that message. Understood!
--
Roland Perry

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:57:49 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 12:59:18 on
Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Clark F Morris remarked:
If you have an out of country phone in either Canada or the United
States, the roaming costs to go to the other country are noticeable.
I'm going to pay 40 dollars of 100 minutes of air time in the US for
one month so that I don't get hit with really bad roaming charges.

Is that a special tariff that allows cheaper overseas roaming if you pay
so much for domestic airtime?

What I meant was I purchased 100 US airtime minutes for my Canadian
phone. Text messages in the US will cost me 75 cents a message unless
I spend 10 dollars to cut the cost to 25 cents a message.

Clark Morris

In the UK, a typical plan will be 200 domestic minutes and virtually
unlimited texts, and virtually unlimited calls to the same mobile
network - for about $20.

Within either the US or Canada, most carriers are nationwide so far as
roaming is concerned.

I'm getting that message. Understood!

If you have an out of country phone in either Canada or the United
States, the roaming costs to go to the other country are noticeable.
I'm going to pay 40 dollars of 100 minutes of air time in the US for
one month so that I don't get hit with really bad roaming charges.
Within either the US or Canada, most carriers are nationwide so far as
roaming is concerned.

Here in Victoria, if you are down by the waterfront, you may get hit by
roaming changes for even a local call.

Why? Because your call gets picked up by a cell tower in Blaine, Washington
State. :-)


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On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:08:51 -0700, "Roger Traviss"
wrote:

If you have an out of country phone in either Canada or the United
States, the roaming costs to go to the other country are noticeable.
I'm going to pay 40 dollars of 100 minutes of air time in the US for
one month so that I don't get hit with really bad roaming charges.
Within either the US or Canada, most carriers are nationwide so far as
roaming is concerned.

Here in Victoria, if you are down by the waterfront, you may get hit by
roaming changes for even a local call.

Why? Because your call gets picked up by a cell tower in Blaine, Washington
State. :-)

That has been alleged to have happened on English south coast
shores/beaches which are screened from the local transmitter by high
cliffs but within range of French base stations.

"Charles Ellson" wrote

That has been alleged to have happened on English south coast
shores/beaches which are screened from the local transmitter by high
cliffs but within range of French base stations.

Certainly has happened at St Margarets Bay (on the coast between Dover and
Deal - Ian Fleming used to live there).

Eurotunnel are equipping the tunnel for mobile phone reception, The South
running tunnel will be connected to French networks, and the North running
tunnel to British networks. So passengers will (normally) be connected to
their home network on the outward journey, but face roaming charges on the
return, with complications in case of Single Line Working.
http://www.eurotunnelgroup.com/uploa...nnelTunnel.pdf

Peter

"Peter Masson" writes:

Certainly has happened at St Margarets Bay (on the coast between Dover
and Deal - Ian Fleming used to live there).

Eurotunnel are equipping the tunnel for mobile phone reception, The
South running tunnel will be connected to French networks, and the
North running tunnel to British networks. So passengers will
(normally) be connected to their home network on the outward journey,
but face roaming charges on the return, with complications in case of
Single Line Working.
http://www.eurotunnelgroup.com/uploa...nnelTunnel.pdf

I think they have got it the wrong way around.

Am unlikely to make a call in the tunnel on the outward journey going to France,
but on the return being able to call to family whilst on the train would be
nice. Especially as you are driving more straight away.

On the outward journey there is always plenty of time to make a call.

Phil

On 13-Mar-12 03:50, Peter Masson wrote:
Eurotunnel are equipping the tunnel for mobile phone reception, The
South running tunnel will be connected to French networks, and the North
running tunnel to British networks. So passengers will (normally) be
connected to their home network on the outward journey,

For confused readers: the "South running tunnel" normally goes from
France to the UK, i.e. North, and the "North running tunnel" normally
goes from the UK to France, i.e. South.

It would seem more logical to have both countries serve both tunnels or,
failing that, change from one to the other at the midpoint.

Also, while the French will cover their tunnel _before_ the Olympic
Games, the Brits won't cover theirs until _after_ the Games--missing out
on huge potential revenues and frustrating customers.

http://www.eurotunnelgroup.com/uploa...nnelTunnel.pdf

I have trouble accepting the accuracy of a press release that describes
mobile phone service as "wi-fi", a trademark for the IEEE 802.11 family
that has _nothing_ to do with GSM.

S

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In message , at 04:55:58 on
Tue, 13 Mar 2012, Charles Ellson remarked:
Here in Victoria, if you are down by the waterfront, you may get hit by
roaming changes for even a local call.

Why? Because your call gets picked up by a cell tower in Blaine, Washington
State. :-)

That has been alleged to have happened on English south coast
shores/beaches which are screened from the local transmitter by high
cliffs but within range of French base stations.

I've had that happen to me near Dover, but I didn't make any calls!
--
Roland Perry

On 13/03/2012 04:55, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:08:51 -0700, "Roger Traviss"
wrote:

If you have an out of country phone in either Canada or the United
States, the roaming costs to go to the other country are noticeable.
I'm going to pay 40 dollars of 100 minutes of air time in the US for
one month so that I don't get hit with really bad roaming charges.
Within either the US or Canada, most carriers are nationwide so far as
roaming is concerned.

Here in Victoria, if you are down by the waterfront, you may get hit by
roaming changes for even a local call.

Why? Because your call gets picked up by a cell tower in Blaine, Washington
State. :-)

That has been alleged to have happened on English south coast
shores/beaches which are screened from the local transmitter by high
cliffs but within range of French base stations.

Yes, that happened to me when I was down by the cliffs of Dover a few
years back. But I found that, while my phone was picking up French
signals, it would not lock onto them.