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, at
00:01:16 on Thu, 12 Jan 2012, plcd1 remarked:
Just announced by Network Rail

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co...G-S-CROSS-PASS
ENGERS-OFFERED-A-GLIMPSE-INTO-THE-FUTURE-198f.aspx

" to improve passenger flow passengers will only be able to enter the
platforms via the new concourse and will exit via the old concourse."

Classic Hutbers Law.

ps I thought the original plan was to allow at least some access to the
lower-numbered platforms through gates on the ground floor.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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" to improve passenger flow passengers will only be able to enter the
platforms via the new concourse and will exit via the old concourse."

ps I thought the original plan was to allow at least some access to the
lower-numbered platforms through gates on the ground floor.

He might mean 'generally'. But yes, all the relevant planning application
drawings do show a small group of entry gates at the east end of the station
front.

OTOH the words footbridge, escalator or lifts aren't mentioned so presumably
you'll take that as proof they haven't been provided?

Paul S

In message , at 11:09:21 on
Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Scott remarked:
" to improve passenger flow passengers will only be able to enter the
platforms via the new concourse and will exit via the old concourse."

ps I thought the original plan was to allow at least some access to the
lower-numbered platforms through gates on the ground floor.

He might mean 'generally'. But yes, all the relevant planning application
drawings do show a small group of entry gates at the east end of the station
front.

Will have to visit the exhibition I suppose.

OTOH the words footbridge, escalator or lifts aren't mentioned so presumably
you'll take that as proof they haven't been provided?

Now now. They are the means by which access "via the new concourse" is
provided.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 11:09:21 on
Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Scott remarked:
" to improve passenger flow passengers will only be able to enter the
platforms via the new concourse and will exit via the old concourse."

ps I thought the original plan was to allow at least some access to the
lower-numbered platforms through gates on the ground floor.

He might mean 'generally'. But yes, all the relevant planning
application drawings do show a small group of entry gates at the east end
of the station front.

Will have to visit the exhibition I suppose.

OTOH the words footbridge, escalator or lifts aren't mentioned so
presumably you'll take that as proof they haven't been provided?

Now now. They are the means by which access "via the new concourse" is
provided.

But not the only means. There will be a level route through where the shops
were on platform 8. That much I was assured of as it's the only route for
cycles.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:

Will have to visit the exhibition I suppose.

Since the exhibition apparently conists of "new CGI images, a map and
iPads giving people the chance to play a quiz" you'd have thought they
could have provided an online version so that people who might be
planning to travel through KX could also see it.

Sam

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, at
17:11:28 on Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Sam Wilson remarked:
Will have to visit the exhibition I suppose.

Since the exhibition apparently conists of "new CGI images, a map and
iPads giving people the chance to play a quiz" you'd have thought they
could have provided an online version so that people who might be
planning to travel through KX could also see it.

I did think about that when I posted earlier, but they obviously want
only a captive audience.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 11:09:21 on Thu,
12 Jan 2012, Paul Scott remarked:

OTOH the words footbridge, escalator or lifts aren't mentioned so
presumably
you'll take that as proof they haven't been provided?

Now now. They are the means by which access "via the new concourse" is
provided.

No, they are the means by which only some of the access is provided, for
those passengers who happen to be on the mezzanine catering level. The main
access is through the ground floor alongside the south end of platform 8.
This is why platforms 5-8 have been shortened, to provide the necessary
ground level circulation space.

Paul S

In message , at 18:20:45 on
Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Scott remarked:

OTOH the words footbridge, escalator or lifts aren't mentioned so
presumably you'll take that as proof they haven't been provided?

Now now. They are the means by which access "via the new concourse"
is provided.

No, they are the means by which only some of the access is provided,
for those passengers who happen to be on the mezzanine catering level.
The main access is through the ground floor alongside the south end of
platform 8. This is why platforms 5-8 have been shortened, to provide
the necessary ground level circulation space.

That's where I'm going wrong - the area you mention is currently part of
the "old concourse" (to be allegedly exit-only), although what they
probably mean is that the exit-only area is the "to be demolished" part
of the old concourse.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 18:20:45 on
Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Paul Scott
remarked:

OTOH the words footbridge, escalator or lifts aren't mentioned so
presumably you'll take that as proof they haven't been provided?

Now now. They are the means by which access "via the new concourse"
is provided.

No, they are the means by which only some of the access is provided,
for those passengers who happen to be on the mezzanine catering level.
The main access is through the ground floor alongside the south end of
platform 8. This is why platforms 5-8 have been shortened, to provide
the necessary ground level circulation space.

That's where I'm going wrong - the area you mention is currently part
of the "old concourse" (to be allegedly exit-only), although what
they probably mean is that the exit-only area is the "to be
demolished" part of the old concourse.

It's exit as in exit from the station. There will be a large circulation
area inside the barriers across the end of the platforms which will allow
access to the new concourse.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 03:06:53
on Fri, 13 Jan 2012, remarked:
There will be a large circulation area inside the barriers across the
end of the platforms which will allow access to the new concourse.

FSVO "large", especially at the eastern end (there's about 10m between
the P1-4 buffers and the outside wall, some of which will be gateline).

That's why they want everyone to exit south, out onto the plaza. And
people not to be trying to get *onto* the lower numbered platforms other
than by the bridge.
--
Roland Perry