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Crossrail searches disused east London tunnel for WWII bombs
The Connaught Tunnel was built in 1878 and runs under the Royal Docks A disused tunnel under the Royal Docks in east London is being searched by Crossrail for unexploded World War II bombs and devices. The 550-metre Connaught Tunnel, which was built in 1878, is part of the planned Crossrail route. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16849396 BUT I have also read (Railway Mag. Feb 2012?) that the Connaught Tunnel is too run down to be reused for Crossrail and that a new tunnel will have to be bored. Does anyone know? |
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![]() "SB" wrote: Crossrail searches disused east London tunnel for WWII bombs The Connaught Tunnel was built in 1878 and runs under the Royal Docks A disused tunnel under the Royal Docks in east London is being searched by Crossrail for unexploded World War II bombs and devices. The 550-metre Connaught Tunnel, which was built in 1878, is part of the planned Crossrail route. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16849396 BUT I have also read (Railway Mag. Feb 2012?) that the Connaught Tunnel is too run down to be reused for Crossrail and that a new tunnel will have to be bored. Does anyone know? Yes, the Connaught Tunnel will be reused for Crossrail, it just needs some work done on it. From the Crossrail website: http://www.crossrail.co.uk/route/tunnelling/tunnel-drives/connaught-tunnel Excerpt: ---quote--- Reconstruction and refurbishment Sections of the existing tunnel are in a poor structural condition. Around 100 metres of tunnel wall will be removed and replaced with a new tunnel lining. The existing brick arches, part of the tunnel approaches, will be retained and repaired. ---/quote--- Much more on that webpage. Also, from September 2010, this London Reconnections piece: http://www.londonreconnections.com/2010/down-in-the-dark-crossrail-the-connaught-tunnel-and-silvertown-station/ |
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 06:04:41 -0800 (PST)
SB wrote: Crossrail searches disused east London tunnel for WWII bombs The Connaught Tunnel was built in 1878 and runs under the Royal Docks A disused tunnel under the Royal Docks in east London is being searched by Crossrail for unexploded World War II bombs and devices. Given that it was used by the north london line up until a few years ago I think they're 70 years too late doing that. Or maybe crossrail passengers are considered more important than the scumbags who used to travel to silvertown! B2003 |
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On Feb 2, 9:38*am, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 06:04:41 -0800 (PST) Given that it was used by the north london line up until a few years ago I think they're 70 years too late doing that. Or maybe crossrail passengers are considered more important than the scumbags who used to travel to silvertown! More a case of that they can rule out UXB that might be set off by train movements, but not UXB that might be set off by rehabilitation work I'd wager. -- Roy |
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:22:34 -0000, Mizter T wrote:
"SB" wrote: Crossrail searches disused east London tunnel for WWII bombs The Connaught Tunnel was built in 1878 and runs under the Royal Docks A disused tunnel under the Royal Docks in east London is being searched by Crossrail for unexploded World War II bombs and devices. The 550-metre Connaught Tunnel, which was built in 1878, is part of the planned Crossrail route. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16849396 BUT I have also read (Railway Mag. Feb 2012?) that the Connaught Tunnel is too run down to be reused for Crossrail and that a new tunnel will have to be bored. Does anyone know? Yes, the Connaught Tunnel will be reused for Crossrail, it just needs some work done on it. From the Crossrail website: http://www.crossrail.co.uk/route/tunnelling/tunnel-drives/connaught-tunnel That's the old plan. A new one was announced today: http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/pres...nnaught-tunnel Crossrail originally planned to strengthen the central section of the tunnel by removing the existing steel linings and back filling the entire section with concrete foam. These tunnels would then have been enlarged by boring through the concrete to create tunnels that are large enough for Crossrail trains to pass. Crossrail will now place cofferdams in the Connaught Passage between the Victoria and Royal Albert Docks, pump out the water and create a dry construction site allowing workers to dig down to the tunnel to undertake the enlargement work through a .cut and cover. approach. |
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![]() Crossrail will now place cofferdams in the Connaught Passage between the Victoria and Royal Albert Docks, pump out the water and create a dry construction site allowing workers to dig down to the tunnel to undertake the enlargement work through a .cut and cover. approach. Well that makes sense it was built by cut and cover in the first place. Or maybe they could re-instate the bridge? Wouldn't really need to swing much these days. |
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![]() "Paul Rigg" wrote in message ... Crossrail will now place cofferdams in the Connaught Passage between the Victoria and Royal Albert Docks, pump out the water and create a dry construction site allowing workers to dig down to the tunnel to undertake the enlargement work through a .cut and cover. approach. Well that makes sense it was built by cut and cover in the first place. Or maybe they could re-instate the bridge? Wouldn't really need to swing much these days. Looks like the end of City airport would be in the way,plus a new road bridge. neil. |
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David Walters wrote:
That's the old plan. A new one was announced today: http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/pres...nnaught-tunnel Crossrail originally planned to strengthen the central section of the tunnel by removing the existing steel linings and back filling the entire section with concrete foam. These tunnels would then have been enlarged by boring through the concrete to create tunnels that are large enough for Crossrail trains to pass. Crossrail will now place cofferdams in the Connaught Passage between the Victoria and Royal Albert Docks, pump out the water and create a dry construction site allowing workers to dig down to the tunnel to undertake the enlargement work through a .cut and cover. approach. Oh, well. That's blown the budget. ;-) |
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On Feb 2, 6:02*pm, Bruce wrote:
David Walters wrote: That's the old plan. A new one was announced today:http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/pres...l-outlines-new... * *Crossrail originally planned to strengthen the central section * *of the tunnel by removing the existing steel linings and back * *filling the entire section with concrete foam. These tunnels * *would then have been enlarged by boring through the concrete to * *create tunnels that are large enough for Crossrail trains to pass. * *Crossrail will now place cofferdams in the Connaught Passage * *between the Victoria and Royal Albert Docks, pump out the water * *and create a dry construction site allowing workers to dig down * *to the tunnel to undertake the enlargement work through a .cut * *and cover. approach. Oh, well. *That's blown the budget. *;-) I was down there at the same time as the BBC guys (was slightly annoyed they "broke" the story to be honest - i've wanted to write about UXO for years but Crossrail have been really paranoid about the subject). During the many ice cold moments tediously waiting for them to get the perfect shot of a metal pole being pushed into the ground, I had a good chat both with the UXO guys and the tunnel engineers. Basically it'll be cut and covered now (for the reasons I've stuck up on LR) and they don't currently anticipate that being a problem - if anything I got the impression they were quite happy about it from both a finance and ops perspective as it was easier and (potentially) cheaper. The original boring method had been intended to avoid disrupting the Docks, but they've said they're basically fine with it as long as it doesn't impact their boat shows. One consequence though is that the Old Pump house will have to go - that's going to be dismantled and donated to the SS Robin, who are probably going to use it for their new ticket office once its been reassembled. In UXO terms, they reckon there might be five or six bombs down there based on the records - hence the scans just to be sure. Oh and the truck ISN'T armored. |
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In uk.transport.london message 70cdc258-c3b6-4940-9a0d-8f3b730bf3ad@dn8
g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, Thu, 2 Feb 2012 06:04:41, SB posted: BUT I have also read (Railway Mag. Feb 2012?) that the Connaught Tunnel is too run down to be reused for Crossrail and that a new tunnel will have to be bored. If a large number of apparently empty lorries are seen about the place, they will be taking away the old hole and delivering the new one. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. Turnpike 6.05 WinXP. Web http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - FAQ-type topics, acronyms, and links. Command-prompt MiniTrue is useful for viewing/searching/altering files. Free, DOS/Win/UNIX now 2.0.6; see URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pc-links.htm. |
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