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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:59:24 -0000, "Dave Liney"
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"John Rowland" wrote in message
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Over time the number of people changing there would fall, as people
reorganise their place of living and place of working around the new
regime...


Are you seriously suggesting that no-one living on the Edgware branch wants
to go to the West End, and that those on the High Barnet branch only want to
go to the City?

People don't arrange their lives around the through running of the Northern
Line.


Not in the short-term, no. But imagine the current service pattern
became permanent. Newcomers and movers within the area evaluate their
accommodation location based on many factors, a key one being ease of
use of public transport. The turnaround of people's lives is
sufficiently high that patterns would change as the months go on. You
only need look at, for example, provincial towns and cities [1] where
parking is difficult to see the exodus of shoppers to more convenient
facilities.

So as daft as it sounds, I think really do organise themselves around
train service patterns!

Sam

[1] I'd cite Cambridge as an example (rather quiet on the run-up to
Christmas) although I have no figures to back this up, and with many
avid Cambridge readers to this ng, I suspect I'd be rather flamed.
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Are you seriously suggesting that no-one living on the Edgware branch wants
to go to the West End, and that those on the High Barnet branch only want to
go to the City?


People don't arrange their lives around the through running of the Northern
Line.


Dave.



Yebbut some of us learned to use the Vic Line to Oxford Circus after
changing from Euston (Bank Branch). This is by far the quickest way to
town from here (Burnt Oak)

I'm not that far from the Jubilee Line, which I can use to go to Bond Street.

People do learn other ways round the system, even if they do not move
house. I still want my Charing Cross trains though...

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:59:24 -0000, "Dave Liney"
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[northern line fixed service pattern]

Are you seriously suggesting that no-one living on the Edgware branch wants
to go to the West End, and that those on the High Barnet branch only want to
go to the City?


I doubt very much that is the suggestion.

People don't arrange their lives around the through running of the Northern
Line.


But it was fascinating to watch how travel patterns did change when the
Central Line was shut for weeks. First of all there was a massive shift
to the obvious alternative routes such as the Victoria Line at
Walthamstow. However over time the initial massive changes smoothed
themselves out as people changed travel times, tried different options
etc.

My travel times moved by over 2 hours - to a much earlier arrival at
work in order to avoid the worst delays. They haven't changed that much
since - maybe by only 30 mins or so.

I'd accept the Central Line closure is an extreme example and changes
were partly dictated by the structure of the replacement bus services
but it was nonetheless very interesting to observe if very irritating
for all those who were inconvenienced.

The opening of the Jubilee Line extension and its interchange options
have also led to big changes in travel patterns in East London. Ditto
for the Lewisham extension of the DLR.
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