On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:10:53 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
I'd have gone with toll tunnel!, but as you suggest, and as pointed out by
others back in November, it works exactly the same as if you entered and
left any other barriered station between 2 and 30 mins later. (IIRC someone
posted those exact figures.)

the rules for same station exit are on the TfL website. I guess it may
be possible that the TOCs apply different criteria.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14870.aspx

If you enter and leave at the same station then you shouldn't be charged
since you clearly have not made a journey worthy of the name. The fact
that you are charged just demonstrates the complete mean spiritedness of
the people in charge at TfL and the TOCs.

B2003

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If you enter and leave at the same station then you shouldn't be charged
since you clearly have not made a journey worthy of the name. The fact
that you are charged just demonstrates the complete mean spiritedness of
the people in charge at TfL and the TOCs.

If you thought about this for more than a few seconds you'd realise the
charge is made to prevent people cancelling their journey by touching in,
then touching an out gate without passing through, then heading off into the
sunset on a train, FOC..

Paul S

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:42:58 -0000
"Paul Scott" wrote:
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If you enter and leave at the same station then you shouldn't be charged
since you clearly have not made a journey worthy of the name. The fact
that you are charged just demonstrates the complete mean spiritedness of
the people in charge at TfL and the TOCs.

If you thought about this for more than a few seconds you'd realise the
charge is made to prevent people cancelling their journey by touching in,
then touching an out gate without passing through, then heading off into the
sunset on a train, FOC..

Almost all overground stations where Oysters are valid have ticket gates
so unless they're planning on jumping over or pushing through them or are
travelling to aberdeen how exactly is that going to help? Also we're constantly
reminded how many inspectors there are on the system.

B2003

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:42:58 -0000
"Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote in message
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If you enter and leave at the same station then you shouldn't be charged
since you clearly have not made a journey worthy of the name. The fact
that you are charged just demonstrates the complete mean spiritedness of
the people in charge at TfL and the TOCs.

If you thought about this for more than a few seconds you'd realise the
charge is made to prevent people cancelling their journey by touching in,
then touching an out gate without passing through, then heading off into
the
sunset on a train, FOC..

Almost all overground stations where Oysters are valid have ticket gates
so unless they're planning on jumping over or pushing through them or are
travelling to aberdeen how exactly is that going to help?

You don't need to be going to Aberdeen. Anywhere ungated on any NR route
outside London would do; and there are many such places in Surrey, Sussex,
Kent etc etc...

Paul S

In message , Paul Scott
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You don't need to be going to Aberdeen. Anywhere ungated on any NR
route outside London would do; and there are many such places in
Surrey, Sussex, Kent etc etc...

You don't even have to go outside London. Kensington Olympia, Chiswick
Wandsworth Town, Barnes and Mortlake are ungated, as are Blackheath and
Deptford, and dozens more. Not to mention almost all of the DLR ...
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Paul Terry

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, wrote:

Almost all overground stations where Oysters are valid have ticket gates

DLR is ungated as are many NR stations.

Even NR stations that are gated have to have the gates locked open for
significant parts of the day because relatively few NR stations are
staffed throughout station opening hours.
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Paul Terry

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:30:11 +0000
Paul Terry wrote:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, wrote:

Almost all overground stations where Oysters are valid have ticket gates

DLR is ungated as are many NR stations.

Thats true, I'd forgotten about the DLR.

TBH though , I don't really care. If I go into a station and then come out
again I shouldn't have to pay. If they're worried about people pulling a
fast one thats their problem , not mine. Either put working gates in these
stations that don't have them, have more inspectors on those routes with a
larger fine or just suck up the cost of fare dodging. But don't stiff people
who may have a valid reason for leaving the station a short while after
entering.

B2003