In uk.transport.london Steve Terry wrote:
Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the coffee
shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use completely free
until the big networks frightened them with stories of abuse
and sold them their secure systems.

Yup, and it's fragmented such that you need three subscriptions not one.
And PAYG is silly because it's often 5 pounds an hour, while with 3G I can
get 5 pounds a month or 50p/day. And no faffing about with signups,
registering, etc, it just works.

Wifi is just a waste of time when travelling IME, 3G is far more useful.
But sadly, due to hardware manufacturers having a US view of the world (wifi
networks that actually work, poor 3G coverage and broken mobile tariffs), it
isn't common fit on laptops and many tablets.

3G is no use on the tube, of course. But I'm not convinced that people are
going to pay a wifi-scale fee (5 pounds an hour, 10-15 pounds a month) for
the 5 minutes a day they spend lurking on a station platform.

Theo

Theo Markettos wrote:
In uk.transport.london Steve Terry wrote:
Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the
coffee shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use
completely free until the big networks frightened them with stories
of abuse
and sold them their secure systems.

Yup, and it's fragmented such that you need three subscriptions not
one. And PAYG is silly because it's often 5 pounds an hour, while
with 3G I can get 5 pounds a month or 50p/day. And no faffing about
with signups, registering, etc, it just works.

Wifi is just a waste of time when travelling IME, 3G is far more
useful. But sadly, due to hardware manufacturers having a US view of
the world (wifi networks that actually work, poor 3G coverage and
broken mobile tariffs), it isn't common fit on laptops and many
tablets.

3G is no use on the tube, of course. But I'm not convinced that
people are going to pay a wifi-scale fee (5 pounds an hour, 10-15
pounds a month) for the 5 minutes a day they spend lurking on a
station platform.
Theo

I've got my Three Skype S2 HSDPA phone for use on the laptop
when out and about, but as a Sky BB user i'm looking forward to
free "The Cloud WiFi" as my local Wetherspoon pub and McD's
are The Cloud Wifi enabled.

Steve Terry
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In article , (Steve Terry)
wrote:

Theo Markettos wrote:
In uk.transport.london Steve Terry wrote:
Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the
coffee shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use
completely free until the big networks frightened them with stories
of abuse and sold them their secure systems.

Yup, and it's fragmented such that you need three subscriptions not
one. And PAYG is silly because it's often 5 pounds an hour, while
with 3G I can get 5 pounds a month or 50p/day. And no faffing about
with signups, registering, etc, it just works.

Wifi is just a waste of time when travelling IME, 3G is far more
useful. But sadly, due to hardware manufacturers having a US view of
the world (wifi networks that actually work, poor 3G coverage and
broken mobile tariffs), it isn't common fit on laptops and many tablets.

3G is no use on the tube, of course. But I'm not convinced that people
are going to pay a wifi-scale fee (5 pounds an hour, 10-15 pounds a
month) for the 5 minutes a day they spend lurking on a station platform.

I've got my Three Skype S2 HSDPA phone for use on the laptop
when out and about, but as a Sky BB user i'm looking forward to
free "The Cloud WiFi" as my local Wetherspoon pub and McD's
are The Cloud Wifi enabled.

Doesn't Wetherspoon's offer free wifi anyway? I'm sure they used to.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 16/03/2012 21:13, Theo Markettos wrote:
In uk.transport.london Steve wrote:
Sorry i don't mean on the underground, i was thinking of all the coffee
shops and pubs a couple of years ago i was able to use completely free
until the big networks frightened them with stories of abuse
and sold them their secure systems.

Yup, and it's fragmented such that you need three subscriptions not one.
And PAYG is silly because it's often 5 pounds an hour, while with 3G I can
get 5 pounds a month or 50p/day. And no faffing about with signups,
registering, etc, it just works.

Wifi is just a waste of time when travelling IME, 3G is far more useful.
But sadly, due to hardware manufacturers having a US view of the world (wifi
networks that actually work, poor 3G coverage and broken mobile tariffs), it
isn't common fit on laptops and many tablets.

3G is no use on the tube, of course. But I'm not convinced that people are
going to pay a wifi-scale fee (5 pounds an hour, 10-15 pounds a month) for
the 5 minutes a day they spend lurking on a station platform.

Theo

Isn't all of South Korea wi-fi now? There is no charge or subscription
necessary, you just use it whenever and wherever, IIRC.

I thought that they were eventually planning to do something that here
in the UK.