Anyone know what the plans are for the District line platforms at
Whitechapel?

There are two island platforms, originally numbered (I presume) 1 to
4. Plat 1 is the eastbound. The track has been lifted at plats 2 and 3
and the trackbed has been fenced off at both ends of the station. Plat
4 has been renumbered plat 2. This platform has been widened outwards
so the track has been re-aligned. The old wooden canopy has been
extended to the platform edge by a new modern canopy along its length,
looks very odd!

Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.
And what have they done to the front of the station. Didn't it have a
proper canopy covering the full width of the front? Now it has a
couple of small glass protrusions above the entrance, hardly giving
any protection from the elements.

Dave

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:50:37 +0100, David wrote:

Anyone know what the plans are for the District line platforms at
Whitechapel?

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Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

The two current tracks are in their final positions, it will be the maximum
size island platform that the space between the outer brick walls of the
cutting will allow.

Paul S

On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:29:12 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

Are trains terminating at whitechapel history now? If so isn't that going to
cause problems on the district when there are issues further up the line?

B2003

On Wed, 16 May 2012 11:03:51 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
I believe there are also plans to take out the bay platform at Mansion
House as part of the SSL resignalling project.

That seems a bit shortsighted. LU does seem to have something against
reversing sidings and crossovers when they're bloody useful when park of
the line cocks up.

B2003

On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:29:12 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:50:37 +0100, David wrote:

Anyone know what the plans are for the District line platforms at
Whitechapel?

There are two island platforms, originally numbered (I presume) 1 to
4. Plat 1 is the eastbound. The track has been lifted at plats 2 and 3
and the trackbed has been fenced off at both ends of the station. Plat
4 has been renumbered plat 2. This platform has been widened outwards
so the track has been re-aligned. The old wooden canopy has been
extended to the platform edge by a new modern canopy along its length,
looks very odd!

Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

There are some limited plans on the Crossrail website.

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/route/sta...hapel/#content
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/route/sta...echapel/design



It's all clear now, I'd forgotten that Crossrail was stopping there.

Dave

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

I believe there are also plans to take out the bay platform at Mansion
House as part of the SSL resignalling project.

Given that the rebuilding of Tower Hill all those years ago made it
redundant, why now? As Boltar says, getting rid of useful flexibility
facilities looks very short-sighted.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 16/05/2012 09:07, Paul Scott wrote:
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:50:37 +0100, David wrote:

Anyone know what the plans are for the District line platforms at
Whitechapel?

snipped

Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

The two current tracks are in their final positions, it will be the
maximum size island platform that the space between the outer brick
walls of the cutting will allow.

Paul S



I also notice that they have converted the signals in that area from
automatic to semi-automatic, or floodgate signals, as they are called on
the Northern Line. Why is that?

The semi-automatics on the eastbound track start just around near the
old St. Mary's Junction and end just east of Whitechapel, about where
the begin on the westbound track. The westbound semi-automatics seem to
end at the starter on the westbound track.

On 16/05/2012 11:03, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:30:33 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:29:12 +0100
Paul wrote:
Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

Are trains terminating at whitechapel history now? If so isn't that going to
cause problems on the district when there are issues further up the line?

Yes, no terminators at Whitechapel. The new turnback sidings are at
West Ham.

I believe there are also plans to take out the bay platform at Mansion
House as part of the SSL resignalling project.

Are there many terminators at Mansion House? I think that there are not
many.

What are the plans for Tower Hill's bay platform, BTW.

On 16/05/2012 16:28, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Paul Corfield
writes
On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:30:33 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:29:12 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
Just wondered what the space in the middle will be used for since the
platforms have been renumbered.

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

Are trains terminating at whitechapel history now? If so isn't that
going to
cause problems on the district when there are issues further up the
line?

Yes, no terminators at Whitechapel. The new turnback sidings are at
West Ham.

I believe there are also plans to take out the bay platform at Mansion
House as part of the SSL resignalling project.

There are new reversing crossovers at the east and west ends of the
platforms. One has to do a 'main line shunt' now and as this causes
delays to the following trains is only used in degraded conditions.

I saw markers on the eastbound track between Stepney Green and
Whitechapel, actually. One marker had C/R written on it, while the other
had D/R.

Is that why they installed semi-automatic signals in the area, then?

On 16/05/2012 22:52, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , "
writes

I believe it will be used to provide an escalator link down to
Crossrail as well as provide a much larger circulation area for
passengers.

The two current tracks are in their final positions, it will be the
maximum size island platform that the space between the outer brick
walls of the cutting will allow.

Paul S



I also notice that they have converted the signals in that area from
automatic to semi-automatic, or floodgate signals, as they are called
on the Northern Line. Why is that?

Not floodgate signals at all. Semi-automatic (controlled) signals which
are to be treated as automatic in certain circumstances. When the points
are proved secured, the signal cabin can be put into King (the King
lever is thrown) and worked as through running.

Just going on what they call them on the Northern Line, though yes, they
are semi-automatic. The illuminated A under the signal itself indicates
that they are in automatic mode.