In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:32:48 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
.. .

Correct - it's my understanding that improved frequency is the reason
for the double tracking. I think the long term plan is to restore
double track on all of the Wimbledon line but Wimbledon station is a
particular problem.

Especially when you consider that the existing platform is also down for
changes in the London and SE RUS's proposal for 5 tracking the SWML from
from Surbiton; i.e. Thameslink will be displaced onto the current tram
platform.

No indications of where they'd move the trams, but some people might be
pleased if it removed the confusion about Oyster PAYG once and for all.
(As discussed here in uk.t.l now and again.)

Is there any possibility of bringing it up to street level or are the
roads in that area too crowded already?

Where, though? The road layout at Wimbledon station doesn't seem too
suitable or accessible from the Tramlink approach to me.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Fri, 18 May 2012 08:05:04 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:32:48 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
.. .

Correct - it's my understanding that improved frequency is the reason
for the double tracking. I think the long term plan is to restore
double track on all of the Wimbledon line but Wimbledon station is a
particular problem.

Especially when you consider that the existing platform is also down for
changes in the London and SE RUS's proposal for 5 tracking the SWML from
from Surbiton; i.e. Thameslink will be displaced onto the current tram
platform.

No indications of where they'd move the trams, but some people might be
pleased if it removed the confusion about Oyster PAYG once and for all.
(As discussed here in uk.t.l now and again.)

Is there any possibility of bringing it up to street level or are the
roads in that area too crowded already?

Where, though? The road layout at Wimbledon station doesn't seem too
suitable or accessible from the Tramlink approach to me.

I was thinking from further back on the line, well before the bridge
(eg, up Hartfield Road or Crescent, perhaps one-way up one road and
back down another). The double track section starts some distance from
the station, so getting people to walk to new platforms from the
existing station wouldn't go down well, eg, see the waiting tram in
this view: http://binged.it/J2xrXQ

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 08:05:04 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:32:48 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
.. .

Correct - it's my understanding that improved frequency is the
reason for the double tracking. I think the long term plan is to
restore double track on all of the Wimbledon line but Wimbledon
station is a particular problem.

Especially when you consider that the existing platform is also down
for changes in the London and SE RUS's proposal for 5 tracking the
SWML from from Surbiton; i.e. Thameslink will be displaced onto the
current tram platform.

No indications of where they'd move the trams, but some people might
be pleased if it removed the confusion about Oyster PAYG once and for
all. (As discussed here in uk.t.l now and again.)

Is there any possibility of bringing it up to street level or are the
roads in that area too crowded already?

Where, though? The road layout at Wimbledon station doesn't seem too
suitable or accessible from the Tramlink approach to me.

I was thinking from further back on the line, well before the bridge
(eg, up Hartfield Road or Crescent, perhaps one-way up one road and
back down another). The double track section starts some distance from
the station, so getting people to walk to new platforms from the
existing station wouldn't go down well, eg, see the waiting tram in
this view: http://binged.it/J2xrXQ

That picture illustrates the problem quite well. You would approach up a
residential road that is a one-way street and then have a sharp bend into
Hartfield Road.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:49:56 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 08:05:04 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:32:48 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
.. .

Correct - it's my understanding that improved frequency is the
reason for the double tracking. I think the long term plan is to
restore double track on all of the Wimbledon line but Wimbledon
station is a particular problem.

Especially when you consider that the existing platform is also down
for changes in the London and SE RUS's proposal for 5 tracking the
SWML from from Surbiton; i.e. Thameslink will be displaced onto the
current tram platform.

No indications of where they'd move the trams, but some people might
be pleased if it removed the confusion about Oyster PAYG once and for
all. (As discussed here in uk.t.l now and again.)

Is there any possibility of bringing it up to street level or are the
roads in that area too crowded already?

Where, though? The road layout at Wimbledon station doesn't seem too
suitable or accessible from the Tramlink approach to me.

I was thinking from further back on the line, well before the bridge
(eg, up Hartfield Road or Crescent, perhaps one-way up one road and
back down another). The double track section starts some distance from
the station, so getting people to walk to new platforms from the
existing station wouldn't go down well, eg, see the waiting tram in
this view: http://binged.it/J2xrXQ

That picture illustrates the problem quite well. You would approach up a
residential road that is a one-way street and then have a sharp bend into
Hartfield Road.

If the tram got on to Hartfield Rd at the Kingston Rd junction, it
looks like a fairly easy transition, on the level. It would then
follow Hartfield Rd all the way up to the Bridge and would pass
outside the front of the station, proceeding on to Wimbledon Hill Rd,
possibly all the way up to the village. Alternatively, it could just
follow Hartfield Rd straight on to The Braodway. It would follow the
one-way system on the return, coming via The Broadway, Gladstone Rd
and Sir Cyril Black Way.

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:49:56 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 08:05:04 -0500,
wrote:

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:32:48 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
.. .

Correct - it's my understanding that improved frequency is the
reason for the double tracking. I think the long term plan is to
restore double track on all of the Wimbledon line but Wimbledon
station is a particular problem.

Especially when you consider that the existing platform is also
down for changes in the London and SE RUS's proposal for 5 tracking
the SWML from from Surbiton; i.e. Thameslink will be displaced
onto the current tram platform.

No indications of where they'd move the trams, but some people
might be pleased if it removed the confusion about Oyster PAYG once
and for all. (As discussed here in uk.t.l now and again.)

Is there any possibility of bringing it up to street level or are
the roads in that area too crowded already?

Where, though? The road layout at Wimbledon station doesn't seem too
suitable or accessible from the Tramlink approach to me.

I was thinking from further back on the line, well before the bridge
(eg, up Hartfield Road or Crescent, perhaps one-way up one road and
back down another). The double track section starts some distance from
the station, so getting people to walk to new platforms from the
existing station wouldn't go down well, eg, see the waiting tram in
this view: http://binged.it/J2xrXQ

That picture illustrates the problem quite well. You would approach up a
residential road that is a one-way street and then have a sharp bend into
Hartfield Road.

If the tram got on to Hartfield Rd at the Kingston Rd junction, it
looks like a fairly easy transition, on the level. It would then
follow Hartfield Rd all the way up to the Bridge and would pass
outside the front of the station, proceeding on to Wimbledon Hill Rd,
possibly all the way up to the village. Alternatively, it could just
follow Hartfield Rd straight on to The Braodway. It would follow the
one-way system on the return, coming via The Broadway, Gladstone Rd
and Sir Cyril Black Way.

That amount of street running would, I suspect, be a very expensive
solution. You'd also lose the Dundonald Road tram stop.

--
Colin Rosenstiel