In message , at
15:50:46 on Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:
As I'm only stopping to let someone out, by the time I've seen the bus
coming I'll have dumped the passenger off and be beating a retreat.

You are surely not going to pull out with the bus starting to pass you?

The bus is pulling in behind me (according to the scenario I was
responding to).
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 21:46:26 on Mon, 26
Nov 2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
As I'm only stopping to let someone out, by the time I've seen the bus
coming I'll have dumped the passenger off and be beating a retreat.

mode="stirring it"

If you let a passenger out where you shouldn't be stopped, would you
be insured?

/mode

I would be, because there's no actual prohibition on me stopping.

There would be if the bus stop was in a bus lane, a situation I see
practically every day.

But I wouldn't be stopped there, because that's prohibited (rather than
advised against).

And in any case, we don't see normal car drivers having insurance claims
turned down for minor infringements (eg getting scraped while parked
part on the pavement or too close to a junction) so I don't think the
insurance companies worry about that kind of thing.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at
15:37:03 on Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:
But if the RSS does stop at bus stops, then it IS in competition,
effectively, with the Local Bus Service. You would have caught a local bus
back from the station to the bus stop at the end of the street.

In one of my examples there's no buses after 5pm (and even then only one
an hour), in the other no buses serve the station (or anywhere near it).
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 01:10:57 on
Tue, 27 Nov 2012, remarked:

Read the Highway Code.

....

all the people who arrive in cars who use this post box
http://goo.gl/maps/jYOhd

Those cars, and the buses, are also infringing the "32ft from a
junction" rule. And no, the bus stop is not marked as a parking place.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at
17:34:18 on Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:
at Nottingham they don't use the forecourt (the entrances and
exits are a bit tight, as well as being full of cars and taxis all the
time). They wait in the overflow taxi-rank down the side of the station.
Which is an ordinary public road.

If so its owners have the right to waive or change the restrictions if
they wish.

They can't waive no-waiting zones on public roads.

No, but the Local Authority can. Especially if the rail people ask them to,
for a good reason.

Doesn't that involve posting signage to cancel out the "No stopping
except Taxis"? That bit of road is currently undergoing remodelling, and
so there are understandable long term changes to the arrangements - I
doubt the LA will pass a temporary TRO for one Sunday afternoon.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at
17:23:31 on Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:

Miscreant car is now caught in "V" thus formed.

On the principle of "two wrongs don't make a right", the bus is now
causing an obstruction.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 15:50:46
on Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:
As I'm only stopping to let someone out, by the time I've seen the bus
coming I'll have dumped the passenger off and be beating a retreat.

You are surely not going to pull out with the bus starting to pass you?

The bus is pulling in behind me (according to the scenario I was
responding to).
--
Not if the front of it is still doing 10 mph or so and is only a yard or so
behind you car about to pass it. (the scenario I am alluding to).
)

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 21:46:26 on Mon, 26 Nov
2012, Graeme Wall remarked:
As I'm only stopping to let someone out, by the time I've seen the bus
coming I'll have dumped the passenger off and be beating a retreat.

mode="stirring it"

If you let a passenger out where you shouldn't be stopped, would you
be insured?

/mode

I would be, because there's no actual prohibition on me stopping.

There would be if the bus stop was in a bus lane, a situation I see
practically every day.

But I wouldn't be stopped there, because that's prohibited (rather than
advised against).

And in any case, we don't see normal car drivers having insurance claims
turned down for minor infringements (eg getting scraped while parked part
on the pavement or too close to a junction) so I don't think the insurance
companies worry about that kind of thing.

We won't worry about that. YOU might, in the event of a claim, when the
other party proves an accident occurs because you disoveyed the HC. For a
start: the other party will successfully reclaim Uninsured Losses from your
ins co. YOU can say Goodbye to your NCB (or one "life" on it if you have
protected NCB). Also increase in premium next time round.

In message , at
10:44:37 on Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:
As I'm only stopping to let someone out, by the time I've seen the bus
coming I'll have dumped the passenger off and be beating a retreat.

You are surely not going to pull out with the bus starting to pass you?

The bus is pulling in behind me (according to the scenario I was
responding to).
--
Not if the front of it is still doing 10 mph or so and is only a yard or so
behind you car about to pass it. (the scenario I am alluding to).

Most likely I'd have had to overtake the said bus quarter of a mile
before the stop in order for it to be catching me up again within the 30
second window it takes me to drop off. So I'd probably not do the
overtaking, and drop my passenger off after/behind the bus.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at
10:48:21 on Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Portsmouth Rider
remarked:
And in any case, we don't see normal car drivers having insurance claims
turned down for minor infringements (eg getting scraped while parked part
on the pavement or too close to a junction) so I don't think the insurance
companies worry about that kind of thing.

We won't worry about that. YOU might, in the event of a claim, when the
other party proves an accident occurs because you disoveyed the HC. For a
start: the other party will successfully reclaim Uninsured Losses from your
ins co. YOU can say Goodbye to your NCB (or one "life" on it if you have
protected NCB). Also increase in premium next time round.

But if that happened with any regularity it would be a "well known fact"
that if your car was (eg) bumped when parked on the pavement you would
not be able to claim on the insurance (without the drawbacks you list).
And that isn't the case.
--
Roland Perry