On 14/09/2012 12:21, 77002 wrote:
On Sep 14, 12:06 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
"allantracy" wrote in message

...

He also informed me of something I had not realised, namely, that
there are no longer any day time fast trains on the Met to Amersham
(or Chesham), only during the peaks and, even then, small in number.

And only inbound in the morning peak and outbound in the evening peak.

Eventually TfL should withdraw services north of Moor Park. They are
clearly clueless with regard to the needs of suburban passengers.

Ideally the Chiltern Route to Aylesbury should be electrified at
25kV. Chiltern would take over all Metropolitan services north of
Moor Park.


What about service out to Chesham?

In article ,
e27002 wrote:
Now that the Circle goes to Hammersmith, why even have the H&C? TfL
can just extent the Uxbridge trains to Barking. Edgware Rd to Baker
St will be Circle only. That will simplify operations.

Just terminate all the Metropolitan trains at Baker St.

On 14 Sep, 12:29, "
wrote:
On 14/09/2012 12:21, 77002 wrote:





On Sep 14, 12:06 am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
"allantracy" *wrote in message

....

He also informed me of something I had not realised, namely, that
there are no longer any day time fast trains on the Met to Amersham
(or Chesham), only during the peaks and, even then, small in number.

And only inbound in the morning peak and outbound in the evening peak.

Eventually TfL should withdraw services north of Moor Park. *They are
clearly clueless with regard to the needs of suburban passengers.

Ideally the Chiltern Route to Aylesbury should be electrified at
25kV. *Chiltern would take over all Metropolitan services north of
Moor Park.

What about service out to Chesham?

Why not? It is hardly a typical rapid transit line. S8 stock is not
what the customer needs or wants. A four car suburban AC electric
service to Marylebone would be perfectly acceptable.

On 14 Sep, 19:50, bob wrote:
On 2012-09-14 11:21:49 +0000, 77002 said:





On Sep 14, 12:06*am, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
"allantracy" *wrote in message

....

He also informed me of something I had not realised, namely, that
there are no longer any day time fast trains on the Met to Amersham
(or Chesham), only during the peaks and, even then, small in number.

And only inbound in the morning peak and outbound in the evening peak.

Eventually TfL should withdraw services north of Moor Park. *They are
clearly clueless with regard to the needs of suburban passengers.

Ideally the Chiltern Route to Aylesbury should be electrified at
25kV. *Chiltern would take over all Metropolitan services north of
Moor Park.

In the longer term Chiltern's Aylesbury route should be extended to
Milton Keynes thru Granborough Rd, and Birmingham Snow Hill thru
Verney Junction and Banbury. *That might take a tad more vision than
currently found in Westminster and Whitehall.

Is it possible to have a line dual-electrified with 25 kV overhead and
LU 4th rail? *As the DC electrification is essentially independent of
the running lines (unlike Southern style 3rd rail), it should avoid
both earth-bonding concerns and track circuit issues that normally
prevent dual electrification from being viable.

Yes, but with immunization etc. But why bother just to run S8s to
Amersham and Chesham. Let's return to a real suburban service like
the Metropolitan Railway intended.