In message , Brian Watson
writes
"CJB" wrote in message
...
Last Friday week there was a suicide - 'person hit by a train' - at
West Drayton on the FGW main line.
Now there has been yet another suicide at H&H on Sunday night at about
21.50.
Speaking of the 4'th suicide in as many months, John McDonnell MP H&H
stated "We need to get everyone around table and examine all possible
measures we can take to stop this from happening, because it has got
to a point where we can't just stand back."
I suppose we can rule out "living in Hayes and Harlington" as a possible
cause?
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being
brought over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of
work uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man"
of the family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way out of
a bad situation.
--
Clive

Clive wrote:
In message , Brian Watson
writes
"CJB" wrote in message
...
Last Friday week there was a suicide - 'person hit by a train' - at
West Drayton on the FGW main line.
Now there has been yet another suicide at H&H on Sunday night at about
21.50.
Speaking of the 4'th suicide in as many months, John McDonnell MP H&H
stated "We need to get everyone around table and examine all possible
measures we can take to stop this from happening, because it has got
to a point where we can't just stand back."
I suppose we can rule out "living in Hayes and Harlington" as a possible
cause?
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being brought
over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man" of the
family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way out of a bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans, and
couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too much face.

In message

, at 09:43:39 on Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Recliner
remarked:
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being brought
over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man" of the
family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way out of a bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans, and
couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too much face.

And they probably have no access to funds or passports either.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:55:21 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message

, at 09:43:39 on Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Recliner
remarked:
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being brought
over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man" of the
family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way out of a
bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans, and
couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too much face.

And they probably have no access to funds or passports either.

If they're that intelligent they could find out about services that could
help them or even just go to the police.

B2003

In message , at 16:08:32 on Wed, 3 Oct
2012, d remarked:
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being brought
over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man" of the
family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way out of a
bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans, and
couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too much face.

And they probably have no access to funds or passports either.

If they're that intelligent they could find out about services that could
help them or even just go to the police.

You clearly have no idea how trapped these women are in their
unfortunate situation.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 08:17:12 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:08:32 on Wed, 3 Oct
2012, d remarked:
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being brought
over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man" of the
family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way out of a
bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans, and
couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too much face.

And they probably have no access to funds or passports either.

If they're that intelligent they could find out about services that could
help them or even just go to the police.

You clearly have no idea how trapped these women are in their
unfortunate situation.

Frankly I don't give a rats arse, but if they are educated indians or
pakistanis they'll almost certainly speak english and so can get themselves
help. Of course it does make one wonder where the professional liberal lefty
handwringers are in these sorts of situations. Suddenly they all go quiet
when they realise they can either defend human rights or upset some ethnics.
Apparently defending human rights isn't such a big deal after all.

B2003

In message , at 08:28:00 on Thu, 4 Oct
2012, d remarked:
You clearly have no idea how trapped these women are in their
unfortunate situation.

Frankly I don't give a rats arse

That's obvious.
--
Roland Perry

On 2012\10\04 08:17, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:08:32 on Wed, 3 Oct
2012, d remarked:
There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being
brought
over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man"
of the
family is the head but the woman in the only one with any brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way
out of a
bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans, and
couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too
much face.

And they probably have no access to funds or passports either.

If they're that intelligent they could find out about services that could
help them or even just go to the police.

You clearly have no idea how trapped these women are in their
unfortunate situation.

Women trapped in men's bodies, apparently.

In message , at 09:55:57 on
Thu, 4 Oct 2012, Basil Jet remarked:
You clearly have no idea how trapped these women are in their
unfortunate situation.

Women trapped in men's bodies, apparently.

The ones who are locked in a cupboard when their husband leaves the
house are at least prevented from throwing themselves under a train.
--
Roland Perry

There was a TV programme on this only a few months ago and I seem to
remember the main reason given was that educated women were being
brought over by their families for an arranged marriage with an out
of work
uneducated layabout husband which caused friction, when the "man"
of the family is the head but the woman in the only one with any
brains.
Distress in the woman being the cause who can't see any other way
out of a bad situation.

Indeed. They have no local support network, and probably know no-one
outside the family. They've probably never heard of the Samaritans,
and couldn't return to their family back home as that would lose too
much face.

And they probably have no access to funds or passports either.

This picqued my interest. But I find the local paper reported the
previous 3 deaths at Hayes and Harlington as Keith Coutinho, 26, Enzo
Belluccia, 35, and Antonio Martinez, 20. It also reported the death of
Jason Biggs, 41, at West Drayton and Nigel Fisher, 56, on the tracks.
None of those strike me as manifestly likely to speak Urdu and to be
stuck in an arranged mariage with an uneducated husband.
--
Robin
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