On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:05:13 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

4 from Kings Lynn to Cambridge. After it joined up at Cambridge the load
redistributed and was about 100% full in the rear section (rather than
about 120%).

How can something be more than 100% full?

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jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

How can something be more than 100% full?

Train capacity is normally stated as the number of seats. If there are
standing passengers in addition, that's over 100 per cent.

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

On 2 Nov 2012 14:25:29 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

How can something be more than 100% full?

Train capacity is normally stated as the number of seats. If there are
standing passengers in addition, that's over 100 per cent.

So there isn't supposed to be any passengers standing?

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jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

So there isn't supposed to be any passengers standing?

There is no specific number of standing passengers permitted, basically as
many as you can fit. So there is no standard figure that could be used.

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

On 2 Nov 2012 17:51:36 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

There is no specific number of standing passengers permitted, basically as
many as you can fit. So there is no standard figure that could be used.

No health and safety rules?

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jhk

In message , at 23:27:31 on
Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Jarle H Knudsen remarked:

There is no specific number of standing passengers permitted, basically as
many as you can fit. So there is no standard figure that could be used.

No health and safety rules?

There have been isolated cases of train guards refusing to move a train
with people in the vestibules, but 999 times out of 1000 people will be
allowed to stand on every available bit of floor.
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Roland Perry

On 02/11/2012 22:27, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On 2 Nov 2012 17:51:36 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

There is no specific number of standing passengers permitted, basically as
many as you can fit. So there is no standard figure that could be used.

No health and safety rules?

No. It would be very hard to enforce it, with a walk-on service.

There have allegedly been cases on older trains of the weight of
passengers distorting the coach, so the doors wouldn't close.


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Arthur Figgis wrote:

No. It would be very hard to enforce it, with a walk-on service.

On buses, where there is a stated capacity, it is either unenforced or so
high that you couldn't reasonably get that may on anyway. The one thing
that doesn't usually happen is standing upstairs, though that is more
because people don't do it than because anyone refuses to move the bus
until they go downstairs.

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On 2 Nov 2012 17:51:36 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

There is no specific number of standing passengers permitted, basically as
many as you can fit. So there is no standard figure that could be used.

No health and safety rules?

Not as such. Or at least not that are in any way enforced.

Trains regularly run crammed full with standing passengers such that no
more could physically board.

Neil
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Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply.

In message , at 14:48:22 on
Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Jarle H Knudsen remarked:
4 from Kings Lynn to Cambridge. After it joined up at Cambridge the load
redistributed and was about 100% full in the rear section (rather than
about 120%).

How can something be more than 100% full?

A train is deemed full when all the seats are occupied. After that
people can stand in the aisles and vestibules, making it more than 100%
full.
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Roland Perry