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[email protected] · November 10th 12, 10:59 PM posted to uk.transport.london

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(Recliner) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will
require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will
my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap
of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

tim..... · November 10th 12, 11:05 PM posted to uk.transport.london

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In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will
require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will
my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap
of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom
Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey
history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that doesn't
get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be used on
buses outside of London.

tim

Recliner[_2_] · November 10th 12, 11:12 PM posted to uk.transport.london

"tim....." wrote:
wrote in message
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In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:15:28 +0000, Lewis
wrote:

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to post this but I was
wondering if anyone could help me. What is the maximum amount of times
you can use your oyster card in a set period of time? I have just
produce a list of things that I need to do on Monday and it will
require 9 different uses of my oyster card in a two hour period. Will
my oyster card work for all thee journies? I heard that there is a cap
of the amount of journeys that can be made in a period of time

I have never heard of such a limit. There are journeys in London where
nine validations within 2 hours are perfectly possible. Further, staff
use Oyster cards to open gates time after time without any issue. I am
sure there must have been times when I have used an Oyster card as
many times as you propose to do, again without any card problems.

The only thing I can think of is the fact that the card holds the last
10 transactions but this is not an issue. Once the 11th transaction is
made the first one disappears from the card. The system overall
captures all the transactions anyway.

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom Oyster
cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've saved. Do
you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the gates without
doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a query-able journey history
like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me doing some strange ones as I
take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be used
on buses outside of London.

Correct. It's a London-only free Oyster photocard that is otherwise similar
to a Freedom Pass. It came in at the beginning of this month (a Boris
election pledge). See http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/25830.aspx

[email protected] · November 10th 12, 11:32 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article ,
(tim.....) wrote:

wrote in message
...
In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom
Oyster cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've
saved. Do you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the
gates without doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a
query-able journey history like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me
doing some strange ones as I take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be
used on buses outside of London.

Huh? I have a (Cambridgeshire) bus pass and don't get a pension. I can use
it anywhere in the country.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_2_] · November 10th 12, 11:40 PM posted to uk.transport.london

wrote:
In article ,
(tim.....) wrote:

wrote in message
...
In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

I'm now the proud possessor of one of the new 60+ not-quite-Freedom
Oyster cards, and I notice that it doesn't tell me the fares that I've
saved. Do you know if it calculates them at all, or just opens the
gates without doing any fare calculations? And does it keep a
query-able journey history like a normal Oyster card? [It'll spot me
doing some strange ones as I take advantage of my new freedom!]

Do you mean a Freedom Pass or something else?

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be
used on buses outside of London.

Huh? I have a (Cambridgeshire) bus pass and don't get a pension. I can use
it anywhere in the country.

The bus pass age is linked to the female retirement age, so it's currently
~61.5. People over that age are entitled to it, but any Londoner over 60
but under that rising age can now have the new 60+ free Oystercard (which,
of course, also includes 24 hour access to all TfL services, and off-peak
access to all rail services in London).

Roland Perry · November 11th 12, 07:57 AM posted to uk.transport.london

In message , at 18:32:20
on Sat, 10 Nov 2012, remarked:

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be
used on buses outside of London.

Huh? I have a (Cambridgeshire) bus pass and don't get a pension. I can use
it anywhere in the country.

People attaining the age of 60 this year won't get such a pass, because
the goalposts have been moved.

For someone who becomes 60 today, they'll have to wait until 6 July 2015
to qualify for a national bus pass, assuming they haven't changed the
rules again by then.
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] · November 11th 12, 09:51 AM posted to uk.transport.london

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
18:32:20 on Sat, 10 Nov 2012, remarked:

He means a Freedom pass for the 60-60 whatever it is this week that
doesn't get a pension yet.

That isn't the same as the normal Freedom pass because it can't be
used on buses outside of London.

Huh? I have a (Cambridgeshire) bus pass and don't get a pension. I can
use it anywhere in the country.

People attaining the age of 60 this year won't get such a pass,
because the goalposts have been moved.

For someone who becomes 60 today, they'll have to wait until 6 July
2015 to qualify for a national bus pass, assuming they haven't
changed the rules again by then.

That depends on the issuing council(s). I'm sure Cambridgeshire will be one
of the meanest.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry · November 11th 12, 10:25 AM posted to uk.transport.london

In message , at 04:51:41
on Sun, 11 Nov 2012, remarked:
For someone who becomes 60 today, they'll have to wait until 6 July
2015 to qualify for a national bus pass, assuming they haven't
changed the rules again by then.

That depends on the issuing council(s). I'm sure Cambridgeshire will be one
of the meanest.

Are you saying that councils have discretion on when they'll issue the
passes? And if so, do they generally exercise it to issue them earlier
or later than the "female retirement age" benchmark?
--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_2_] · November 11th 12, 10:44 AM posted to uk.transport.london

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 04:51:41
on Sun, 11 Nov 2012, remarked:
For someone who becomes 60 today, they'll have to wait until 6 July
2015 to qualify for a national bus pass, assuming they haven't
changed the rules again by then.

That depends on the issuing council(s). I'm sure Cambridgeshire will be one
of the meanest.

Are you saying that councils have discretion on when they'll issue the
passes? And if so, do they generally exercise it to issue them earlier or
later than the "female retirement age" benchmark?

They can issue a local pass earlier if they want, as London now does, but
the national bus pass scheme starts when someone reaches female retirement
age. I don't think English councils can opt out of that.

London is also more generous in that its pass covers nearly all public
transport, not just buses, and it's 24 hours a day for TfL-operated
services.

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