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On Dec 3, 7:38*pm, Spyke wrote:


On 03/12/2012 18:37, D7666 wrote:


, *accessible
only by a small lift.


Would run into hundreds of thousand if not millions of


Not even lift access, only way down is the spiral staircase (not
suitable for anyone with mobility issues) or through the tunnel from
Holborn.


Yes, I know - but the lift was there - one of the reasons the line
closed, but I suggest repairing it / reinstating it would be essential
nay mandatory to make a museum. They'd have to do it for disabled
access.

Thats why it would cost a lot of money.


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I have wondered why they don't do up Covent Garden station so its original
tiles / signs are all visible in Leslie Gren style.

That would make a better "museum" station and would tie in with the LT
museum nearby/


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On Dec 3, 3:01 pm, "tim....." wrote:


I can't understand why they don't open this sort of thing as a permanent
museum.


I museum of what ?


1940s London, with or without the war connection



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On 04/12/2012 17:56, tim..... wrote:

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I can't understand why they don't open this sort of thing as a permanent
museum.


I museum of what ?


1940s London, with or without the war connection




Another one?

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A secret disused underground station that was used by thousands of
Londoners during the Blitz has been opened up for rare public viewing.

Visitors have been able to take a tour of the Aldwych Tube Station,
one of London's closed underground stations, which included a platform
which stopped operating in 1914.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Atonement.html


I can't understand why they don't open this sort of thing as a permanent
museum.

Or perhaps the subset of "mes" who think that it would be nice to visit is
too small


Given that the London Transport Museum has had a considerable cut in
funding


Isn't it self funding?

there are plenty of other niche museums in London that are, so there's no
reason why it can't be.

tim




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Given that the London Transport Museum has had a considerable cut in
funding


Isn't it self funding?

there are plenty of other niche museums in London that are, so there's no
reason why it can't be.


I don't believe that it is self funded. I understand it has lost
funding from TfL and the Arts Council. Whether it can be self funding
remains to be seen given it has lost £1.5m funding in one year. The
only way you deal with that is hike prices for everything, lose staff
or reduce activities. The more unpalatable options could involve not
saving items for heritage purposes or closing the Covent Garden site.

The LT Museum serves a range of vital functions and there is a
legitimate debate to be had as to whether it should be self funding or
if it should receive public funds so as to retain a broad scope of
education functions and to keep admission prices affordable for
Londoners.


Surely the Museum Depot near Acton Town gets some TfL support?
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For those of us, not London based, and whose world view of London owes
mostly (or even only) to the scale afforded by the Tube map, what was
the extent of the inconvenience (if any) that was caused by the
station closing.

In other words, how close is the nearest alternative?
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On 03/12/2012 17:40, allantracy wrote:

For those of us, not London based, and whose world view of London owes
mostly (or even only) to the scale afforded by the Tube map, what was
the extent of the inconvenience (if any) that was caused by the
station closing.

In other words, how close is the nearest alternative?


Temple on the District/Circle is only 200m away.

Covent Garden and Holborn on the Picadilly are no more than 700m away.
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In message , Phil Cook
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On 03/12/2012 17:40, allantracy wrote:

For those of us, not London based, and whose world view of London owes
mostly (or even only) to the scale afforded by the Tube map, what was
the extent of the inconvenience (if any) that was caused by the
station closing.

In other words, how close is the nearest alternative?


Temple on the District/Circle is only 200m away.

Covent Garden and Holborn on the Picadilly are no more than 700m away.


It's also important to note that Holborn to Aldwych was operated as a
shuttle service (there were no through trains after 1917, and precious
few before then). Passengers therefore often found it quicker to walk
the short distance from Holborn than to change and wait for the shuttle.

The origin of this seeming anomaly lies in the fact that the Piccadilly
line was formed from two separate schemes - the Great Northern and
Strand, which terminated at what later became Aldwych - and the Brompton
and Piccadilly Circus, which terminated at Piccadilly Circus. Both ended
up under the control of Charles Yerkes whose genius lay in realising
that the operational difficulties of two tiny terminii deep under
central London could be avoided by driving a short connecting line from
Piccadilly Circus to Holborn, thus providing a through route. This was
not Yerkes' first plan for extending beyond Piccadilly, but after it was
carried through, it left the Holborn-Aldwych section as a not very
useful appendage.

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In message , at 18:09:42 on Mon, 3 Dec
2012, Phil Cook remarked:
For those of us, not London based, and whose world view of London owes
mostly (or even only) to the scale afforded by the Tube map, what was
the extent of the inconvenience (if any) that was caused by the
station closing.

In other words, how close is the nearest alternative?


Temple on the District/Circle is only 200m away.


Although anyone heading for Aldwych would have needed to go via Holborn,
so a diversion to Temple could be quite time consuming.

Covent Garden and Holborn on the Picadilly are no more than 700m away.


You could close Covent Garden if walking 200m (from Leicester Square)
isn't an issue.
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