In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
04:48:36 on Tue, 11 Dec 2012, remarked:
"M25 of the rails" my tail lamp end. Doesn't get the hard working
people of Peckham and Wandsworth in to where they need to get to (i.e
Central London) any quicker - quite the opposite.

That's the point of orbital lines. They don't connect directly to the
likes of Central London. You change where the orbital line intersects
with a radial line for that.

They also don't connect well with radial lines. I thought a trip
yesterday to Shoreditch High St was an ideal opportunity to try out
the Overground, but connections to the Cambridge lines are hopeless.

That is one of the limitations of the London Overground orbital route. Cue
rebuilding of East Brixton and a Loughborough Junction interchange.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Ah! You have my undivided interest.

I've long been puzzled why there is no scheduled train service from
Blackfriars via the Loughborough Junction avoiding line to Clapham Junction
and points further south.

I'm also puzzled why no-one has ever built new platforms in Brixton
directly above the Beckenham Junction and Victoria platforms,
thereby providing a connection.

Have these two ideas been thrashed out repeatedly in the past?

In article ,
(Robin9) wrote:

;134867 Wrote:
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:
-
In message , at
04:48:36 on Tue, 11 Dec 2012,
remarked:--
"M25 of the rails" my tail lamp end. Doesn't get the hard working
people of Peckham and Wandsworth in to where they need to get to (i.e
Central London) any quicker - quite the opposite.-

That's the point of orbital lines. They don't connect directly to
the likes of Central London. You change where the orbital line
intersects with a radial line for that.-

They also don't connect well with radial lines. I thought a trip
yesterday to Shoreditch High St was an ideal opportunity to try out
the Overground, but connections to the Cambridge lines are
hopeless.-

That is one of the limitations of the London Overground orbital route.
Cue rebuilding of East Brixton and a Loughborough Junction interchange.

Ah! You have my undivided interest.

I've long been puzzled why there is no scheduled train service from
Blackfriars via the Loughborough Junction avoiding line to Clapham
Junction and points further south.

I'm also puzzled why no-one has ever built new platforms in Brixton
directly above the Beckenham Junction and Victoria platforms,
thereby providing a connection.

Have these two ideas been thrashed out repeatedly in the past?

The Brixton idea has been put forward many times but no-one was willing to
find the money.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Right, well there's a job for Boris in his current expansionist mood.

"Robin9" wrote in message
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;134867 Wrote:
In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:
-
In message , at
04:48:36 on Tue, 11 Dec 2012,
remarked:--
"M25 of the rails" my tail lamp end. Doesn't get the hard working
people of Peckham and Wandsworth in to where they need to get to (i.e
Central London) any quicker - quite the opposite.-

That's the point of orbital lines. They don't connect directly to the
likes of Central London. You change where the orbital line intersects
with a radial line for that.-

They also don't connect well with radial lines. I thought a trip
yesterday to Shoreditch High St was an ideal opportunity to try out
the Overground, but connections to the Cambridge lines are hopeless.-

That is one of the limitations of the London Overground orbital route.
Cue
rebuilding of East Brixton and a Loughborough Junction interchange.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Ah! You have my undivided interest.

I've long been puzzled why there is no scheduled train service from
Blackfriars via the Loughborough Junction avoiding line to Clapham
Junction
and points further south.
The reasons are partly historic and a lack of need. Historically Blackfriars
probably would have had limited spare capacity and such a service would get
in the way of main line/boat train/Eurostar services. Physically, Waterloo
and Blackfriars are not that far apart and a direct train from Clapham
Junction to Waterloo and a short bus ride would always win. There are only
three intermediate stations, and two of those are already served by the
Northern Line.


I'm also puzzled why no-one has ever built new platforms in Brixton
directly above the Beckenham Junction and Victoria platforms,
thereby providing a connection.

AIUI that's a very expensive project.

--
DAS