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In message 2013060314223958701-nospam@nospamcom, at 14:22:39 on Mon, 3
Jun 2013, eastender remarked: Barons Court becomes Barons Caught. That would be Westminster, surely? -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:42:15 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Paul Corfield remarked: Is there any precedent for naming what is really a National Rail service, albeit procured by TfL? Only LU has named lines. err... Thameslink. Robin Hood Line... Indeed. Anyway, the article I read said the line should be named *after* her Maj, it doesn't actually give a suggested name. In which case, I fail to see what would be wrong with the Elizabeth Line. The Victoria Line provides a very concrete and hard to argue with precedent, after all. |
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-septem ber.org, at 14:38:08 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Clank remarked: I fail to see what would be wrong with the Elizabeth Line. Sounds like something involved in world cruises. And "Victoria" is an area of London, but "Elizabeth" isn't. -- Roland Perry |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
I still think Crossrail should be called Crossrail. It's an established name and I think it neatly explains what the line's essential purpose is - a fast rail link (a)cross London. I accept I'm probably in a minority but that's nothing new! I'd go with that, just as attempts to call Thameslink anything other than Thameslink have just left the pinky-purply mob looking a bit silly. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply. |
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On 03/06/2013 15:07, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:42:15 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Paul Corfield remarked: Is there any precedent for naming what is really a National Rail service, albeit procured by TfL? Only LU has named lines. err... Thameslink. Robin Hood Line... Avocet, Bittern, Wherry, Abbey.... -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:07:32 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:42:15 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Paul Corfield remarked: Is there any precedent for naming what is really a National Rail service, albeit procured by TfL? Only LU has named lines. err... Thameslink. Robin Hood Line... Fair comment Roland (and others). Thameslink is a notable exception but there is not quite the same level of coherent branding and naming on the NR network as there is on the Tube network. Bits of the rail network tend to be associated with the company running the service (now or long ago) or some geographic link with places served or the line runs near to (e.g. Brighton main line, Great Western, East Coast Main Line). The copying of TfL's "status boards" has meant some companies now allocate names to particular services or groups thereof. Southern Railway does this on their website. I still think Crossrail should be called Crossrail. It's an established name and I think it neatly explains what the line's essential purpose is - a fast rail link (a)cross London. I accept I'm probably in a minority but that's nothing new! No, I agree with you about Crossrail. Given that Boris's quote was from his Telegraph column, I think we can presume that both his emphasis on business for non-London concerns and patriotic naming suggestion can be regarded as support for his future leadership bid. |
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![]() On 03/06/2013 20:01, Arthur Figgis wrote: On 03/06/2013 15:07, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:42:15 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Paul Corfield remarked: Is there any precedent for naming what is really a National Rail service, albeit procured by TfL? Only LU has named lines. err... Thameslink. Robin Hood Line... Avocet, Bittern, Wherry, Abbey.... "Free train"... (NLL before the TfL takeover) |
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![]() On 03/06/2013 18:24, Paul Corfield wrote: On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:07:32 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: Is there any precedent for naming what is really a National Rail service, albeit procured by TfL? Only LU has named lines. err... Thameslink. Robin Hood Line... Fair comment Roland (and others). Thameslink is a notable exception but there is not quite the same level of coherent branding and naming on the NR network as there is on the Tube network. Bits of the rail network tend to be associated with the company running the service (now or long ago) or some geographic link with places served or the line runs near to (e.g. Brighton main line, Great Western, East Coast Main Line). The copying of TfL's "status boards" has meant some companies now allocate names to particular services or groups thereof. Southern Railway does this on their website. I still think Crossrail should be called Crossrail. It's an established name and I think it neatly explains what the line's essential purpose is - a fast rail link (a)cross London. I accept I'm probably in a minority but that's nothing new! The Margaret Memorial Line. For any right thinking Londoner, that's where the discussion ends. |
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On 2013\06\03 16:49, Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septem ber.org, at 14:38:08 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Clank remarked: I fail to see what would be wrong with the Elizabeth Line. Sounds like something involved in world cruises. And "Victoria" is an area of London, but "Elizabeth" isn't. All the better: naming a tube line after a place is dumb, because the question "Is this a Victoria train" becomes ambiguous (since a train heading away from Victoria either is or isn't a Victoria train, depending on how you think about it). |
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:53:46 +0100
Basil Jet wrote: On 2013\06\03 16:49, Roland Perry wrote: In message -septem ber.org, at 14:38:08 on Mon, 3 Jun 2013, Clank remarked: I fail to see what would be wrong with the Elizabeth Line. Sounds like something involved in world cruises. And "Victoria" is an area of London, but "Elizabeth" isn't. All the better: naming a tube line after a place is dumb, because the question "Is this a Victoria train" becomes ambiguous (since a train heading away from Victoria either is or isn't a Victoria train, depending on how you think about it). Just naming lines after numbers or letters would be easier for all concerned, but you usually only get that if an entire system is planned from the start. -- Spud |
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