On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:25:02 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

If you became 60 today and were expecting a pass, you'd have to wait
until you were almost 64 (6th March 2017).

If you became 59 today, then you'd have to wait until you were almost 66
(6th March 2020). It's amazing how fast this eligibility is tapering
away!

If it carries on receding like that, I'll get one when I'm 97.

Richard.

The national scheme is linked to the women's retirement age. That is being increased in stages to be in line with the men's retirement age and then IIRC both increase to 67.

wrote:
The national scheme is linked to the women's retirement age. That is
being increased in stages to be in line with the men's retirement age and
then IIRC both increase to 67.

Yes, that's correct.

In article
,
(Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
The national scheme is linked to the women's retirement age. That is
being increased in stages to be in line with the men's retirement age
and then IIRC both increase to 67.

Yes, that's correct.

at the moment.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 18:07:44
on Fri, 21 Jun 2013, remarked:
The national scheme is linked to the women's retirement age. That is
being increased in stages to be in line with the men's retirement age
and then IIRC both increase to 67.

Yes, that's correct.

at the moment.

I would not be surprised to either see the national scheme scrapped
altogether, or associated with some proof (via your tax return) that you
have actually retired, at some point before 2017.
--
Roland Perry

In message

, at 03:57:49 on Fri, 21 Jun 2013, Recliner
remarked:
the standard national bus pass plus 24-hours London Freedom pass
becoming available at a rising age of roughly 62.

If you became 60 today and were expecting a pass, you'd have to wait
until you were almost 64 (6th March 2017).

If you became 59 today, then you'd have to wait until you were almost 66
(6th March 2020). It's amazing how fast this eligibility is tapering away!

But in London,

That's "living in London", not "travelling in London", of course.

your are eligible for the 60+ Oyster card as soon as you
reach 60.

The National "Senior" railcard is the same (ie still 60). But at least
you can live anywhere.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
18:07:44 on Fri, 21 Jun 2013, remarked:
The national scheme is linked to the women's retirement age. That is
being increased in stages to be in line with the men's retirement age
and then IIRC both increase to 67.

Yes, that's correct.

at the moment.

I would not be surprised to either see the national scheme scrapped
altogether, or associated with some proof (via your tax return) that
you have actually retired, at some point before 2017.

How would my tax return show whether or not I've actually retired? I'm not
even sure myself!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 04:43:28
on Sat, 22 Jun 2013, remarked:
I would not be surprised to either see the national scheme scrapped
altogether, or associated with some proof (via your tax return) that
you have actually retired, at some point before 2017.

How would my tax return show whether or not I've actually retired? I'm not
even sure myself!

Any income from employment or self-employment. (Or perhaps, any "taxable
income", which would give people their personal allowance as pocket
money).
--
Roland Perry

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:43:28 -0500,
wrote:

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
18:07:44 on Fri, 21 Jun 2013, remarked:
The national scheme is linked to the women's retirement age. That is
being increased in stages to be in line with the men's retirement age
and then IIRC both increase to 67.

Yes, that's correct.

at the moment.

I would not be surprised to either see the national scheme scrapped
altogether, or associated with some proof (via your tax return) that
you have actually retired, at some point before 2017.

How would my tax return show whether or not I've actually retired? I'm not
even sure myself!

Exactly. I now describe myself as retired, as I stopped working about
18 months ago. But I'm years away from drawing my state pension, and
haven't touched any of my private pensions yet either. I'm not
unemployed, as I have no interest in working, for myself or anyone
else, and I've never drawn any state benefits. I know that when I fill
in surveys, they don't have any classification that fits me, as they
only seem to recognise 'retired' to mean someone who's drawing a
pension. They just don't seem to understand the concept of someone who
lives comfortably off their investments.

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:16:43 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 04:43:28
on Sat, 22 Jun 2013, remarked:
I would not be surprised to either see the national scheme scrapped
altogether, or associated with some proof (via your tax return) that
you have actually retired, at some point before 2017.

How would my tax return show whether or not I've actually retired? I'm not
even sure myself!

Any income from employment or self-employment. (Or perhaps, any "taxable
income", which would give people their personal allowance as pocket
money).

But pensions are taxable income.