In message , at 12:42:43
on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, remarked:
When cyclists pay road tax for their bikes then they can have a say in how
the roads are laid out and what they share them with. Until then they can
put up or shut up.

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles pay no
more than cycles to be put on the road.

When was VAT on new cars scrapped?
--
Roland Perry

On 23/07/2013 18:56, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:42:43
on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, remarked:
When cyclists pay road tax for their bikes then they can have a say
in how
the roads are laid out and what they share them with. Until then they
can
put up or shut up.

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles
pay no
more than cycles to be put on the road.

When was VAT on new cars scrapped?

Same time as it was on bikes?

So, are we ready to discuss the number of pubs built with beer tax yet?
(discussion of telephone technology and local government in Peterborough
to follow).

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

A clever debating ploy but a fraudulent one. Tax payers are not involved in or
obliged to pay for building pubs. They are obliged to pay for road building and
maintenance. They are also obliged to pay the ancillary, consequential costs
of both motoring and drinking. Therefore both should be taxed.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:56:54 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

There has no such thing as road tax for decades. Many motor vehicles pay
no more than cycles to be put on the road.

When was VAT on new cars scrapped?

VAT on bicycles is exactly the same as VAT on new cars. 20%.

There are bicycles out there on which the purchaser would pay a
considerably higher amount of VAT than they could on a new car.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 06:57:04PM +0000, Adrian wrote:

There are bicycles out there on which the purchaser would pay a
considerably higher amount of VAT than they could on a new car.

Really? There exists a bicycle with a price tag over a million quid?

--
David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness

Disappointment:
n: No results found for "priapic dwarf custard wrestling".

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:53:49 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:

There are bicycles out there on which the purchaser would pay a
considerably higher amount of VAT than they could on a new car.

Really? There exists a bicycle with a price tag over a million quid?

You're not very bright, are you?

Here's a clue. What I _actually_ said equates to some expensive bicycles
cost more than some cheap new cars.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 01:25:43PM +0000, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:53:49 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
There are bicycles out there on which the purchaser would pay a
considerably higher amount of VAT than they could on a new car.
Really? There exists a bicycle with a price tag over a million quid?
You're not very bright, are you?

Now now, no name-calling please.

Here's a clue. What I _actually_ said equates to some expensive bicycles
cost more than some cheap new cars.

If that were the case then you would have said "... than they would on
a new car". Instead you said "... than they could on a new car". One
letter difference.

But we all make mistakes sometimes.

--
David Cantrell | top google result for "internet beard fetish club"

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:17:34 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:

There are bicycles out there on which the purchaser would pay a
considerably higher amount of VAT than they could on a new car.

Really? There exists a bicycle with a price tag over a million quid?

You're not very bright, are you?

Now now, no name-calling please.

It was more a statement of the bleedin' obvious than name-calling. The
other conclusion is that you're being deliberately obtuse in a vain
attempt to score some vacuous point.

Which?

Here's a clue. What I _actually_ said equates to some expensive
bicycles cost more than some cheap new cars.

If that were the case then you would have said "... than they would on a
new car". Instead you said "... than they could on a new car". One
letter difference.

Umm, no. Because they're very different things. I can't imagine the kind
of person who buys a £10k roadbike then buying a new Cit C1 or Dacia, so
"would" does not apply. But they could have.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 02:16:00PM +0000, Adrian wrote:

Umm, no. Because they're very different things. I can't imagine the kind
of person who buys a ??10k roadbike then buying a new Cit C1 or Dacia

I can. I can imagine that someone who can afford to blow 10 grand on a
bike which is only a tiny little bit better than a much cheaper bike can
do all kinds of things. After all, they're the sort of person who has
plenty of money to spend unwisely.

--
David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic

You may now start misinterpreting what I just
wrote, and attacking that misinterpretation.