On 06/10/2013 15:08, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 06/10/2013 14:06, tim...... wrote:

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what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have
just invented this.

Other countries have had this for ages

Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube trains.

I don't see why "our" is significant.

People wanting to get around London generally won't care about elsewhere.

Maybe TfL could try this approach? "We've shut down the Piccadilly line.
People trying to get to Heathrow shouldn't be upset, after all there is
a perfectly good metro in Copenhagen".

It'd be cool if they eventually extended the Copenhagen Metro to Malmö.

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On 06/10/2013 13:36, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 06/10/2013 12:34, tim...... wrote:

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what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have just
invented this.

Other countries have had this for ages

How many of those are "in use on the London Underground"? London's tube
(sic) lines haven't had wide walk-through gangways, not even on the new
Victoria line trains.

Didn't plans for the 09ts stipulate walk-through? If so, then what happened?

Metronet happened. They went for a low risk conventional design, as there
was no financial incentive to complete the research project that LU had
previously started. The new articulated trains for the PIcc are essentially
what the 09s for the Victoria line should have been.

On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 11:51:57PM +0100, wrote:

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Air conditioning, huh? I wonder where the exhaust heat is going to go.

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David Cantrell
Professor of Unvironmental Science
University of Human Progress

David Cantrell wrote:
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Air conditioning, huh? I wonder where the exhaust heat is going to go.

Into the newly cooled deep level stations, though much of the Picc is, of
course, above ground.

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On 06/10/2013 15:08, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 06/10/2013 14:06, tim...... wrote:

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what's all the bolliox about no connecting door, like Siemens have
just invented this.

Other countries have had this for ages

Yes, but they've never been available on our small diameter Tube
trains.

I don't see why "our" is significant.

People wanting to get around London generally won't care about elsewhere.

Maybe TfL could try this approach? "We've shut down the Piccadilly line.
People trying to get to Heathrow shouldn't be upset, after all there is
a perfectly good metro in Copenhagen".

It'd be cool if they eventually extended the Copenhagen Metro to Malmö.

that is effectively what they do have :-(

tim

Driverless trains also on the Dubai Metro. Unusual feature is that the South end of trains is for first class and women only.

Lawrie

David Cantrell wrote:
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 11:51:57PM +0100, wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ditioning.html

Air conditioning, huh? I wonder where the exhaust heat is going to go.

Here's some more info:
"Siemens is working with a specialist partner on a novel concept to provide
onboard air-conditioning, a major challenge in London because of the tight
tunnel profile and the problem of dispersing heat generated by operations.
The proposed system features onboard tanks containing a phase-changing
polymer which would be cooled below its freezing point when the train was
running on surface sections of the network. On underground sections heat
transferred from the air-conditioning system would be used to melt the
polymer again.

The train would also be designed to produce less heat than existing stock,
being 30% more energy-efficient and 20% lighter than 'similar modern metro
trains', and able to use regenerative braking to bring the train almost to
a stand.

Low-profile LED lighting would be used throughout, helping to maximise
headroom. Other proposals include advertising screens able to show changing
images and video, and a smart information system which would provide
passengers at stations with real-time information on which parts of the
next train were least busy."

From
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/u...und-train.html

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, at 08:03:26 on Wed, 9 Oct 2013, Recliner
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Other proposals include advertising screens able to show changing
images and video

Much to the irritation of all passengers on board.
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Roland Perry

On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:43:48 +0100, Roland Perry
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Much to the irritation of all passengers on board.

Depends how it's done. I found the Train-Infoscreen system used in
Hamburg (a nice bit of Denglish), in use since the late 90s, not too
intrusive. It also did some quite characterful "next station"
displays with background images of a recognisable feature of the
station.

Neil

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, at 08:03:26 on Wed, 9 Oct 2013, Recliner
remarked:
Other proposals include advertising screens able to show changing
images and video

Much to the irritation of all passengers on board.

last time I worked there Hannover trams had these

I think they got rid of them

tim