On 27/10/2013 21:52, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
21:05:49 on Sun, 27 Oct 2013, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
I understand the need for tracks to be checked for damage / fallen
trees
but this does all seem a bit OTT.

Presumably they're going to run light engines, engineers trains or ECS
under caution to locate blockages etc,

What are these "light engines" of which you speak. Especially south of
London.

Class 73s, usually.

Plural? SWT has one.

And GBRf has some more.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On 27/10/2013 20:54, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 20:41:31 on Sun, 27 Oct
2013, Denis McMahon remarked:
I understand the need for tracks to be checked for damage / fallen trees
but this does all seem a bit OTT.

Presumably they're going to run light engines, engineers trains or ECS
under caution to locate blockages etc,

What are these "light engines" of which you speak. Especially south of
London.

Class 73s

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

In message , at 16:04:45 on
Sun, 27 Oct 2013, Paul Corfield remarked:

No Southern trains apparently until 0900 or 1000.

Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the airport. And
it's not even OHL related.
--
Roland Perry

On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:52:31 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion
at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the
airport. And
it's not even OHL related.

The WCML is running (with disruption due to a tree at Bushey). Why
are we different from FCC north I wonder?

Neil

--
Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.

In message , at
07:21:46 on Mon, 28 Oct 2013, Neil Williams
remarked:
Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the airport.
And it's not even OHL related.

The WCML is running (with disruption due to a tree at Bushey). Why
are we different from FCC north I wonder?

The Fen Line is all-cancelled (as are all Greater Anglia's services).
The only thing running in Cambs seems to be the XC Stansted-Birmingham,
which are being turned at Cambridge.

Thameslink-north would need a special timetable, as the trains are
running to/from south of the river (where again everything seems to be
cancelled), and presumably they don't have such a plan.

EMT seem to be running a shuttle service from Bedford to the north on
the Midland Mainline, but without FCC to connect to, all will do is
create a lot of business for the buffet at Bedford. (The LM service to
Bletchley is running but that's an awful slow way to get to London).
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
07:21:46 on Mon, 28 Oct 2013, Neil Williams
remarked:
Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the airport.
And it's not even OHL related.

The WCML is running (with disruption due to a tree at Bushey). Why
are we different from FCC north I wonder?

The Fen Line is all-cancelled (as are all Greater Anglia's services).
The only thing running in Cambs seems to be the XC
Stansted-Birmingham, which are being turned at Cambridge.

Thameslink-north would need a special timetable, as the trains are
running to/from south of the river (where again everything seems to
be cancelled), and presumably they don't have such a plan.

I suspect there are problems between Bedford and St Pancras. They won't have
a timetable for that.

EMT seem to be running a shuttle service from Bedford to the north on
the Midland Mainline, but without FCC to connect to, all will do is
create a lot of business for the buffet at Bedford. (The LM service
to Bletchley is running but that's an awful slow way to get to
London).

My daughter's 11:03 VT EUS-BHM got away 20 minutes late and was last
reported at Leighton Buzzard 34 late.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:52:31 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the airport.
And it's not even OHL related.

The WCML is running (with disruption due to a tree at Bushey). Why
are we different from FCC north I wonder?

No Virgin Trains services from Euston my daughter tells me. She is booked on
the 11:00.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 16:04:45
on Sun, 27 Oct 2013, Paul Corfield remarked:

No Southern trains apparently until 0900 or 1000.

Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the airport.
And it's not even OHL related.

Gatwick will have flights in the morning? I doubt it.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 08:22:47
on Thu, 31 Oct 2013, remarked:
No Southern trains apparently until 0900 or 1000.

Especially poor given that it will double the amount of confusion at
Gatwick, and force more people onto the roads to get to the airport.
And it's not even OHL related.

Gatwick will have flights in the morning? I doubt it.

I didn't look at Gatwick on Monday, but Heathrow was working pretty well
with just a few short-haul flights cancelled (which is their standard
contingency plan).
--
Roland Perry

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:13:57 +0000, Mizter T
wrote:

Sounds like it could get ugly.

Some TOCs are planning on running an amended timetable (East Coast,
c2c), others have one up their sleeves, ready to go (or not go, as the
case may be).

This afternoon might be a good time to go out and enjoy the splendid
autumn colours - in southern Britain at least - might not have any
autumnal leaves left on the trees come tomorrow, indeed might have fewer
trees as well.

No Southern trains apparently until 0900 or 1000.

No SWT trains until at least 0800 and some services won't operate at
all.

No declaration from South Eastern but warnings of doom.

SE covered themselves in Glory - not

They canceled all of their trains on most of their routes [1] but forgot to
update the live timetable properly (doesn't that happen automatically?)

So people turned up at the station, often by taxi from adjacent stations
saying, I've even told by NRE that the 10:28 from here is running, only to
find out that it wasn't

tim

[1] Ashford to St P was the only service for most of the morning