In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 20:14:29 on Wed, 12
Mar 2014, Phil Cook remarked:
SD also seems to have an informal "not before 7am", just so they don't
wake people up too early!

It has to get to the office and be processed before it can be issued to
the driver.

But even if they get it earlier, the drivers I talked to (in my PJs)
said they didn't try to deliver before 7am.

As for the rest of the deliveries, they do seem to have crept from
7.30am to noon over the last 20yrs (my anecdata).

Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time
ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as
lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend
where you are on the round.

So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a
minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people
think they aren't getting as good a service any more.

Because technology has overtaken them. Get real!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 17:28:01
on Wed, 12 Mar 2014, remarked:
Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time
ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as
lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend
where you are on the round.

So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a
minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people
think they aren't getting as good a service any more.

Because technology has overtaken them. Get real!

Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the
delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the
postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to
deliver so late in the day.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:28:01
on Wed, 12 Mar 2014, remarked:
Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time
ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as
lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend
where you are on the round.

So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a
minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people
think they aren't getting as good a service any more.

Because technology has overtaken them. Get real!

Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the
delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the
postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to
deliver so late in the day.

Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In
the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they
could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or
have another consignment delivered to them).

In message

, at 04:32:07 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner
remarked:
Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time
ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as
lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend
where you are on the round.

So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a
minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people
think they aren't getting as good a service any more.

Because technology has overtaken them. Get real!

Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the
delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the
postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to
deliver so late in the day.

Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In
the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they
could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or
have another consignment delivered to them).

They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a
second round for an absentee).
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 04:32:07 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked:
Royal Mail went to first and second deliveries to just one some time
ago. The last letter is in theory about 14.00, which counts as
lunchtime. The first may be something like 10.30, but it will depend
where you are on the round.

So they have half the number of deliveries, and the first is a
minimum of around three hours later than before. This is why people
think they aren't getting as good a service any more.

Because technology has overtaken them. Get real!

Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the
delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the
postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to
deliver so late in the day.

Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In
the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they
could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or
have another consignment delivered to them).

They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a
second round for an absentee).

But it explains why deliveries are much later now than the previous first
post (of two or more). Effectively, they work an eight hour day, starting
at about 6:30am in the local sorting office.

In message

, at 04:56:13 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner
remarked:
Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the
delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the
postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to
deliver so late in the day.

Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In
the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they
could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or
have another consignment delivered to them).

They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a
second round for an absentee).

But it explains why deliveries are much later now than the previous first
post (of two or more). Effectively, they work an eight hour day, starting
at about 6:30am in the local sorting office.

Are you saying I'm just unlucky in getting my post at noon (consistently
over the last three places I've lived), rather than at perhaps 8am, by
being on the 'wrong end' of the route?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 04:56:13 on Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Recliner remarked:
Technology helps Royal Mail - mots recently by mapping out all the
delivery points so that rounds can be balanced. Then there's the
postcodes and automatic sorting. None of this, however, is an excuse to
deliver so late in the day.

Doesn't it have something to with potties now being full-time workers? In
the past, they finished their postal rounds as early as possible so they
could go on to their day jobs. Now, they come back and do another round (or
have another consignment delivered to them).

They still finish by about 2pm though (unless they have overtime doing a
second round for an absentee).

But it explains why deliveries are much later now than the previous first
post (of two or more). Effectively, they work an eight hour day, starting
at about 6:30am in the local sorting office.

Are you saying I'm just unlucky in getting my post at noon (consistently
over the last three places I've lived), rather than at perhaps 8am, by
being on the 'wrong end' of the route?

Probably. My M-F mail typically arrives before 10am, and Saturdays around
9am. But you do get the odd day when it's much later. I'm not near the mail
depot, so I'm sure some people get theirs much earlier.