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TfL's weekly travel update email this week includes:
" Jubilee line Trains will not run from Friday to Monday between Waterloo and Finchley Road, while we carry out essential Jubilee line tunnelling work. " What tunnelling is this? Or do they just mean tunnel *maintenance* work? -- David Cantrell |
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In message , at 13:31:24 on
Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Paul Corfield remarked: It is dealing with the damaged tunnel lining between Baker St and Bond St. The tunnel rings are being slowly replaced in a series of engineering possessions. Any information on what caused the damage? -- Roland Perry |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:45:26 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:31:24 on Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Paul Corfield remarked: It is dealing with the damaged tunnel lining between Baker St and Bond St. The tunnel rings are being slowly replaced in a series of engineering possessions. Any information on what caused the damage? http://www.nce.co.uk/news/geotechnic...648457.article says "The primary cause of the damage was clay shrinkage in the ground around the tunnel, LU principal tunnel engineer Keith Bowers told NCE. Other factors, including probable issues with the quality of design and construction, are thought to have worsened the problem." The full article is subscription only but if you paste the URL into Google and then click on the search result you can read it all. |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:37:55 +0100
David Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:45:26 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:31:24 on Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Paul Corfield remarked: It is dealing with the damaged tunnel lining between Baker St and Bond St. The tunnel rings are being slowly replaced in a series of engineering possessions. Any information on what caused the damage? http://www.nce.co.uk/news/geotechnic...line-tunnel-re air-effort/8648457.article says "The primary cause of the damage was clay shrinkage in the ground around the tunnel, LU principal tunnel engineer Keith Bowers told NCE. Other factors, including probable issues with the quality of design and construction, are thought to have worsened the problem." More than likely its 99% the latter given that other lines sitting in the same clay haven't had problems with their tunnels rings in 100 years. -- Spud |
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wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:37:55 +0100 David Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:45:26 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:31:24 on Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Paul Corfield remarked: It is dealing with the damaged tunnel lining between Baker St and Bond St. The tunnel rings are being slowly replaced in a series of engineering possessions. Any information on what caused the damage? http://www.nce.co.uk/news/geotechnic...line-tunnel-re air-effort/8648457.article says "The primary cause of the damage was clay shrinkage in the ground around the tunnel, LU principal tunnel engineer Keith Bowers told NCE. Other factors, including probable issues with the quality of design and construction, are thought to have worsened the problem." More than likely its 99% the latter given that other lines sitting in the same clay haven't had problems with their tunnels rings in 100 years. If you'd actually read the article you'd know it's not quite so simple: “The alignment of the southbound tunnel was driven by the need to pass under the Bakerloo Line and as result this section of tunnel on the Jubilee Line is one of the deepest in zone 1, reaching depths of up to 36m,” said Bowers. “This depth takes the tunnel out of the London Clay and into the Lambeth Group, which is highly variable with sand beds within the clay. It is also faulted.” According to Bowers, the same design has been used elsewhere on the Tube network but both tunnels – one in an overrun tunnel at Charing Cross and another at Heathrow airport – are in London Clay and at shallower depths. “It is the lining design in combination with the depth and construction issues that have contributed to the problems on the Jubilee section,” he said. |
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:57:26 -0500
Recliner wrote: "The primary cause of the damage was clay shrinkage in the ground around the tunnel, LU principal tunnel engineer Keith Bowers told NCE. Other factors, including probable issues with the quality of design and construction, are thought to have worsened the problem." More than likely its 99% the latter given that other lines sitting in the same clay haven't had problems with their tunnels rings in 100 years. If you'd actually read the article you'd know it's not quite so simple: “The alignment of the southbound tunnel was driven by the need to pass under the Bakerloo Line and as result this section of tunnel on the Jubilee Line is one of the deepest in zone 1, reaching depths of up to 36m,” said Bowers. “This depth takes the tunnel out of the London Clay and into the Lambeth Group, which is highly variable with sand beds within the clay. It is also faulted.” Oh ok, so the problem was clay shrinkage in sand. Right, got it. -- Spud |
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