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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 14:59:47 on Wed, 21 May 2014, David Walters remarked: ps. When the ticket offices are eventually closed they'll have to modify the text on the back of these vended-Oysters, which currently states: "Found cards should be returned to any Tube station ticket office". Or they could have some kind of letter box in the bit of the station where the ticket machines are that the general public would probably call a ticket office. I think they already have some for unwanted cards with the card balance and deposit going to charity (Railway Children?). The "found" cards would have to be very well differentiated from the "donated" ones. Can you imagine the fuss if someone lost a card and then the balance was donated, rather than them be reunited with it? It would have travel card on it I can't see there being many people who found a PAYG card with a balance on it, turning it in tim -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 14:59:47 on Wed, 21 May 2014, David Walters remarked: ps. When the ticket offices are eventually closed they'll have to modify the text on the back of these vended-Oysters, which currently states: "Found cards should be returned to any Tube station ticket office". Or they could have some kind of letter box in the bit of the station where the ticket machines are that the general public would probably call a ticket office. I think they already have some for unwanted cards with the card balance and deposit going to charity (Railway Children?). The "found" cards would have to be very well differentiated from the "donated" ones. Can you imagine the fuss if someone lost a card and then the balance was donated, rather than them be reunited with it? -- Roland Perry O.k. then, two slots. One marked "Donated Cards" the other marked "Found Cards" How does that sound ? michael adams .... |
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"tim....." wrote
We hear all the time that machines can only store a limited amount of "top up" data as the details can't be access online in real time. Yet here we are being told that the number of the (cards of the) thousand or so people in the trial are either available in real time or are stored in every machine on the network. The "not in real time" difficulty was for buses. I imagine that the full scheme will store a hot card list for every gateline cluster so checking a good card list for the pilot is easy enough and a useful test. -- Mike D |
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![]() "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message ... "tim....." wrote We hear all the time that machines can only store a limited amount of "top up" data as the details can't be access online in real time. Yet here we are being told that the number of the (cards of the) thousand or so people in the trial are either available in real time or are stored in every machine on the network. The "not in real time" difficulty was for buses. no, it's definitely the time taken to access the data on a gateline being longer than the required 200 milli-seconds I imagine that the full scheme will store a hot card list for every gateline cluster so checking a good card list for the pilot is easy enough and a useful test. -- Mike D |
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![]() More details of the foreign cards that will not initially be accepted have emerged. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-paym...ss?intcmp=8610 The (mostly USA) cards that will not be initally accepted I suspect are the non EMV cards that just emulate the magnetic strip for contactless. |
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05:51:03 on Thu, 22 May 2014, Matthew Dickinson remarked: More details of the foreign cards that will not initially be accepted have emerged. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-paym...tless/what-is- contactless?intcmp=8610 The (mostly USA) cards that will not be initally accepted I suspect are the non EMV cards that just emulate the magnetic strip for contactless. Last time I was in Newark, waiting to catch a plane home I noticed numerous booths selling "Prepaid credit cards for use in Europe". I wonder if those are already, or will be soon, compatible? And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the UK, please check with your card issuer." I hope that sort of charge would only be levied "per daily cap", and not *every* time someone touches in or out! -- Roland Perry |
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Last time I was in Newark, waiting to catch a plane home I noticed
numerous booths selling "Prepaid credit cards for use in Europe". I wonder if those are already, or will be soon, compatible? Those are the Travelex chip+pin prepaid cards. I'm reasonably sure none of them are contactless. They are market leaders in offering the worst exchange rates available anywhere. Their current rate for USD/GBP is 53.3p, compared to 57.8p from my bank. And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the UK, please check with your card issuer." Most of the cards I have (from the US and France and Canada, not just the UK) charge about 3% extra for transactions other than in their own currency. -- Regards, John Levine, , Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly |
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In message , at 18:05:47 on Thu, 22 May
2014, John Levine remarked: And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the UK, please check with your card issuer." Most of the cards I have (from the US and France and Canada, not just the UK) charge about 3% extra for transactions other than in their own currency. But what's the definition of a "transaction"... just the total at the end of the day, or every time you swipe a barrier [which arguably charges the card about £9 when you swipe in, and makes an appropriate refund of approx £0-£7 when you swipe out, depending how far away the two places are]. As a second order effect, if you get a (say) £5 refund at the end of such a leg, do they *charge* you 15p, or *refund* you 15p? -- Roland Perry |
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On Thu, 22 May 2014 20:50:23 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:05:47 on Thu, 22 May 2014, John Levine remarked: And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the UK, please check with your card issuer." Most of the cards I have (from the US and France and Canada, not just the UK) charge about 3% extra for transactions other than in their own currency. But what's the definition of a "transaction"... just the total at the end of the day, or every time you swipe a barrier [which arguably charges the card about £9 when you swipe in, and makes an appropriate refund of approx £0-£7 when you swipe out, depending how far away the two places are]. It's the total cost of all the travel made in a day. |
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In message , at 21:27:16 on
Thu, 22 May 2014, David Walters remarked: And: "You should also be aware that overseas transaction fees or charges may apply for travel made with a card issued outside the UK, please check with your card issuer." Most of the cards I have (from the US and France and Canada, not just the UK) charge about 3% extra for transactions other than in their own currency. But what's the definition of a "transaction"... just the total at the end of the day, or every time you swipe a barrier [which arguably charges the card about £9 when you swipe in, and makes an appropriate refund of approx £0-£7 when you swipe out, depending how far away the two places are]. It's the total cost of all the travel made in a day. That's not so bad then. 3% of £7 is only 21p, and that sort of amount is going to be lost in the noise of the currency conversion. -- Roland Perry |
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