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Let me guess Martin, you must be ..........

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Enjoy!

http://www.derelictlondon.com/



Terrific!


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Enjoy!

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Pukkahr !

Site navagation could be better

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But still pukkahr

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Enjoy!

http://www.derelictlondon.com/

I notice that it includes a photo of Mitre Square, which is odd, cos Mitre
Square isn't derelict, even if it is cobbled. I should know, I worked at 1
Mitre Square for enough years.
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:00:17 -0000, "Zobo Kolonie"
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Enjoy!

http://www.derelictlondon.com/

I notice that it includes a photo of Mitre Square, which is odd, cos Mitre
Square isn't derelict, even if it is cobbled. I should know, I worked at 1
Mitre Square for enough years.


Not everything on the site seems to be strictly derelict, so I
wouldn't take the name too literally.
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The Silvertown Disaster is rather interesting, and sad. The plant was
owned at that time by Brunner & Mond, later to become part of ICI, and
I think spun off as a separate company again a few years ago. The
process being carried out which led to the explosion was the
purification of TNT, which reacts violently with alkali. The
Government insisted that this work be carried out at the disused
caustic alkali plant, in a populated area, against the advice of the
B&M management. I don't know the exact details of the process, but it
involved disolving the explosive in hot alcohol. A major producer of
alcohol for industrial purposes was the distillary at Three Mills,
just a few km away, so it may well have come from there. This place
was still producing alcohol for munitions use at the start of WW II,
which led to it being one of the first places in London to be bombed
during that war.

Back to Silvertown, the purification was carried out by a batch
process, which produced far less output than a more modern process
used elsewhere. The small quantities of explosive produced at
Silvertown made only a small contribution to the war effort, at great
risk to the local population, and the workers at the plant. This work
really should have been carried out elsewhere.

The original market for the caustic alkali which had previously been
produced at the plant was the soap boilers that operated in the
Stratford area, using fats produced as by-products of the slaughter
houses which were set up in this area when moved out from London to
beyond the Lea.

For information about cinema buildings contact the Cinema Theatre
Association, they have a web site. I would like to see one '30s
cinema preserved with all original equipment, carbon arcs, Brenograph,
rewind room, generators or mercury arc rectifiers, nitrate film
precautions, plenum plant etc., the equipment still exists in various
places that could be put back into a suitable building, but I don't
think it's going to happen. It's just not the same running the modern
stuff.
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In article , Stephen
Furley writes

For information about cinema buildings contact the Cinema Theatre
Association, they have a web site. I would like to see one '30s
cinema preserved with all original equipment, carbon arcs, Brenograph,
rewind room, generators or mercury arc rectifiers, nitrate film
precautions, plenum plant etc., the equipment still exists in various
places that could be put back into a suitable building, but I don't
think it's going to happen. It's just not the same running the modern
stuff.


Have you been to the Dome cinema in Worthing?
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Have you been to the Dome cinema in Worthing?


I've never been there; I know that it was closed for a while some
years ago, due to roof problems, I think. I don't know what equipment
is installed there now. It wasn't mentioned in a decent discussion on
the Film-tech forums on carbon arcs on the U.K., so I assumed it had
now converted to xenon, do you know?

Until a couple of years ago, the Plaxa, Oxted was still running
Peerless Magnarcs, on Simplex machines If I remember correctly, and
the New Royal at Faversham had Kalee Presidents on pre-war BTH
machines. Both of these have now re-equipped, and were the last that
I was aware of in the South of England.

The Astra, Duxford (part of the Imperial War Museum) had carbon arcs,
and the Projected Picture Trust gave occasional shows there, but I
believe that it is now no longer open to public visitors to the
Museum.

At least one of the preview theatres at Pinewood Studios was still on
carbons a few years ago, but there was talk of it converting.

I was told that the Tyneside Cinema still had two screens on carbons a
few months ago, and there was another somewhere, Scarborough?, that
was still carbon, but who's future was uncertain. That's about it for
this country, as far as I know.

I have Bell and Howell 609 16mm carbon arc, weighs a ton!

The State, Grays closed, but the foyer was used as a club for some
years, and the auditorium was still used from time to time for organ
concerts, until the club closed. At that time the box was still fully
equipped, one of the three projectors, both the follow spots, a '50s
Philips and a '30s Stelmar, and the Brenograph were still carbon. I
don't know what has happened to the place since closure.

In the USA, the Byrd Theatre in Richmond VA was carbon, including a
Brenograph, until a year or two ago, but has now converted. This was
the last working Brenograph still burning carbons that I know of.
There is a xenon converted one at the Enigma Cinema, Bletchley Park
Museum.

The Loews Jersey Theatre in Jersey City NY has a pair of Kinoton
FP-20s with Ashcraft Super Core-lite arcs, burning at about 160A.
This place is under restoration, and has shown film about once a month
between bout October and May for the last two years. This year there
seem to be few events there. I've been over a couple of times, it's
worth seeing. The have a web-site at www.loewsjersey.org. They also
have two Brenographs, not working, but at least one of them could be
restored.
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In article , Stephen
Furley writes

I've never been there; I know that it was closed for a while some
years ago, due to roof problems, I think. I don't know what equipment
is installed there now. It wasn't mentioned in a decent discussion on
the Film-tech forums on carbon arcs on the U.K., so I assumed it had
now converted to xenon, do you know?


English Heritage forced the local council to restore the roof on the
Dome itself when they let it fall into disrepair. Cost them £250K and
worth every penny. It was leased to Robins Cinemas but is now in the
hands of a trust who are applying to the lottery etc for cash.

When I visited the box 4 or so years ago it was still on carbons, and
the projectionist gave me the full tour. I was there looking at places
used in the film 'Wish You Were Here' much of which was shot on the
south coast at Worthing and Bognor.

As far as I know it is still carbon.

And it is still the oldest working cinema in Britain.

Death to the multiplex!

Until a couple of years ago, the Plaxa, Oxted was still running
Peerless Magnarcs, on Simplex machines If I remember correctly, and
the New Royal at Faversham had Kalee Presidents on pre-war BTH
machines. Both of these have now re-equipped, and were the last that
I was aware of in the South of England.


Never been to either of those, they sound nice.

The Astra, Duxford (part of the Imperial War Museum) had carbon arcs,
and the Projected Picture Trust gave occasional shows there, but I
believe that it is now no longer open to public visitors to the
Museum.


PPT has an excellent museum at Bletchley Park (Station X). Well worth a
visit.

At least one of the preview theatres at Pinewood Studios was still on
carbons a few years ago, but there was talk of it converting.


I believe it is still carbon.

I was told that the Tyneside Cinema still had two screens on carbons a
few months ago, and there was another somewhere, Scarborough?, that
was still carbon, but who's future was uncertain. That's about it for
this country, as far as I know.


There used to be a carbon based cinema in Wiltshire - I think it was
Salisbury but it got pulled down to make way for a Doctor's surgery.

I have Bell and Howell 609 16mm carbon arc, weighs a ton!

The State, Grays closed, but the foyer was used as a club for some
years, and the auditorium was still used from time to time for organ
concerts, until the club closed. At that time the box was still fully
equipped, one of the three projectors, both the follow spots, a '50s
Philips and a '30s Stelmar, and the Brenograph were still carbon. I
don't know what has happened to the place since closure.


The old Chiltern Cinema in Beaconsfield still had all the gear in the
box when SBDC who owned it sold it to the highest bidder. It is now a
kids play centre.

I had a look round before it was sold (had been shut for years), very
majestic inside.

Shame it's gone.
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Top website!!! Well found!


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