I received an email from my MP today asking me to sign a petition to stop
the council banning local residents from using a road being paid for with
£7m of tax payers money. This is a new one on me. We have toll roads paid
for with private money. Restricted access roads where everybody pays (such
as the congestion charge) but this idea is completely new. Non residents
will get to use this road but residents will get fined if they use it.

Kevin

"Sign my petition to let us use the new Link Road
View this email in your browser





Bushey Arches, West Watford and the ring road all suffer from traffic
congestion, and we now have the opportunity to change this and alleviate
some of the pressure on these routes – but I need your help or it may not
happen!

Around two years ago I secured £7million of funding from the Government
toward a new Link Road, which will create access from the M1 via Dalton Way,
to the back of the Hospital near Cardiff Road. This was excellent news and
very welcome, it will undoubtedly relieve pressure by removing Hospital
traffic from other routes, and will ensure faster response times with
ambulances no longer having to battle their way down Vicarage Road.

Since then however I have heard of the Council’s plans to install number
plate recognition cameras along the Link Road to make sure that Watford
residents cannot use it. Local residents using the new road to get home for
example, would receive a fine.

I do not believe that local residents are properly aware of this, and I want
that to change. I also do not believe that preventing local people from
using the road is fair; after all it is being paid for with public money.

I have written to the Managing Director of Watford Borough Council and asked
that, firstly, the cameras are not installed. This would mean residents of
West Watford, Vicarage and Holywell could use the road without penalty – it
would not alter the construction of the road itself. Secondly, I have asked
the Council to put in ‘turns’ at Wiggenhall Road, to allow residents coming
from Oxhey for example, to turn onto the Link Road so that they have an
alternative route of access to the motorways. I think this is particularly
important as no action has been taken to alleviate pressure at Bushey Arches
for a number of years, and we should not miss this opportunity to take
proper action.

Therefore, while the road will ease some pressure and I do still support its
construction, particularly for improved Hospital access, it could do so much
more for local residents. This is an opportunity to finally make life easier
for local residents travelling in and around Watford, and to ease congestion
at Bushey Arches significantly, and this is not a chance I want us to miss
out on"

On Friday, 6 June 2014 18:05:09 UTC+1, K wrote:
I received an email from my MP today asking me to sign a petition to stop

the council banning local residents from using a road being paid for with

£7m of tax payers money. This is a new one on me. We have toll roads paid

for with private money. Restricted access roads where everybody pays (such

as the congestion charge) but this idea is completely new. Non residents

will get to use this road but residents will get fined if they use it.



Kevin



"Sign my petition to let us use the new Link Road

View this email in your browser











Bushey Arches, West Watford and the ring road all suffer from traffic

congestion, and we now have the opportunity to change this and alleviate

some of the pressure on these routes - but I need your help or it may not

happen!



Around two years ago I secured £7million of funding from the Government

toward a new Link Road, which will create access from the M1 via Dalton Way,

to the back of the Hospital near Cardiff Road. This was excellent news and

very welcome, it will undoubtedly relieve pressure by removing Hospital

traffic from other routes, and will ensure faster response times with

ambulances no longer having to battle their way down Vicarage Road.



Since then however I have heard of the Council's plans to install number

plate recognition cameras along the Link Road to make sure that Watford

residents cannot use it. Local residents using the new road to get home for

example, would receive a fine.



I do not believe that local residents are properly aware of this, and I want

that to change. I also do not believe that preventing local people from

using the road is fair; after all it is being paid for with public money.



I have written to the Managing Director of Watford Borough Council and asked

that, firstly, the cameras are not installed. This would mean residents of

West Watford, Vicarage and Holywell could use the road without penalty - it

would not alter the construction of the road itself. Secondly, I have asked

the Council to put in 'turns' at Wiggenhall Road, to allow residents coming

from Oxhey for example, to turn onto the Link Road so that they have an

alternative route of access to the motorways. I think this is particularly

important as no action has been taken to alleviate pressure at Bushey Arches

for a number of years, and we should not miss this opportunity to take

proper action.



Therefore, while the road will ease some pressure and I do still support its

construction, particularly for improved Hospital access, it could do so much

more for local residents. This is an opportunity to finally make life easier

for local residents travelling in and around Watford, and to ease congestion

at Bushey Arches significantly, and this is not a chance I want us to miss

out on"

The MP has got it wrong. The proposal is that part of the new Link Road between the two new roundabouts would be for emergency vehicles only. There would be no distinction between residents and non-residents.

"Matthew Dickinson" wrote in message
...

On Friday, 6 June 2014 18:05:09 UTC+1, K wrote:
I received an email from my MP today asking me to sign a petition to stop

the council banning local residents from using a road being paid for with

£7m of tax payers money. This is a new one on me. We have toll roads paid

for with private money. Restricted access roads where everybody pays (such

as the congestion charge) but this idea is completely new. Non residents

will get to use this road but residents will get fined if they use it.



Kevin



"Sign my petition to let us use the new Link Road

View this email in your browser











Bushey Arches, West Watford and the ring road all suffer from traffic

congestion, and we now have the opportunity to change this and alleviate

some of the pressure on these routes - but I need your help or it may not

happen!



Around two years ago I secured £7million of funding from the Government

toward a new Link Road, which will create access from the M1 via Dalton
Way,

to the back of the Hospital near Cardiff Road. This was excellent news and

very welcome, it will undoubtedly relieve pressure by removing Hospital

traffic from other routes, and will ensure faster response times with

ambulances no longer having to battle their way down Vicarage Road.



Since then however I have heard of the Council's plans to install number

plate recognition cameras along the Link Road to make sure that Watford

residents cannot use it. Local residents using the new road to get home
for

example, would receive a fine.



I do not believe that local residents are properly aware of this, and I
want

that to change. I also do not believe that preventing local people from

using the road is fair; after all it is being paid for with public money.



I have written to the Managing Director of Watford Borough Council and
asked

that, firstly, the cameras are not installed. This would mean residents of

West Watford, Vicarage and Holywell could use the road without penalty -
it

would not alter the construction of the road itself. Secondly, I have
asked

the Council to put in 'turns' at Wiggenhall Road, to allow residents
coming

from Oxhey for example, to turn onto the Link Road so that they have an

alternative route of access to the motorways. I think this is particularly

important as no action has been taken to alleviate pressure at Bushey
Arches

for a number of years, and we should not miss this opportunity to take

proper action.



Therefore, while the road will ease some pressure and I do still support
its

construction, particularly for improved Hospital access, it could do so
much

more for local residents. This is an opportunity to finally make life
easier

for local residents travelling in and around Watford, and to ease
congestion

at Bushey Arches significantly, and this is not a chance I want us to miss

out on"

The MP has got it wrong. The proposal is that part of the new Link Road
between the two new roundabouts would be for emergency vehicles only. There
would be no distinction between residents and non-residents.

They are building a road purely for emergency vehicles. It gets better.

Kevin wrote on 06 June 2014 20:34:21 ...
"Matthew Dickinson" wrote in message
...

On Friday, 6 June 2014 18:05:09 UTC+1, K wrote:
I received an email from my MP today asking me to sign a petition to stop
the council banning local residents from using a road being paid for with
£7m of tax payers money. This is a new one on me. We have toll roads paid
for with private money. Restricted access roads where everybody pays (such
as the congestion charge) but this idea is completely new. Non residents
will get to use this road but residents will get fined if they use it.

Kevin

"Sign my petition to let us use the new Link Road
View this email in your browser


Bushey Arches, West Watford and the ring road all suffer from traffic
congestion, and we now have the opportunity to change this and alleviate
some of the pressure on these routes - but I need your help or it may not
happen!

Around two years ago I secured £7million of funding from the Government
toward a new Link Road, which will create access from the M1 via Dalton
Way, to the back of the Hospital near Cardiff Road. This was excellent
news and very welcome, it will undoubtedly relieve pressure by removing
Hospital traffic from other routes, and will ensure faster response
times with ambulances no longer having to battle their way down Vicarage
Road.

Since then however I have heard of the Council's plans to install number
plate recognition cameras along the Link Road to make sure that Watford
residents cannot use it. Local residents using the new road to get home
for example, would receive a fine.

I do not believe that local residents are properly aware of this, and I
want that to change. I also do not believe that preventing local people
from using the road is fair; after all it is being paid for with public
money.

I have written to the Managing Director of Watford Borough Council and
asked that, firstly, the cameras are not installed. This would mean
residents of West Watford, Vicarage and Holywell could use the road
without penalty - it would not alter the construction of the road itself.
Secondly, I have asked the Council to put in 'turns' at Wiggenhall Road,
to allow residents coming from Oxhey for example, to turn onto the Link
Road so that they have an alternative route of access to the motorways.
I think this is particularly important as no action has been taken to
alleviate pressure at Bushey Arches for a number of years, and we should
not miss this opportunity to take proper action.

Therefore, while the road will ease some pressure and I do still support
its construction, particularly for improved Hospital access, it could do
so much more for local residents. This is an opportunity to finally make
life easier for local residents travelling in and around Watford, and to
ease congestion at Bushey Arches significantly, and this is not a chance
I want us to miss out on"

The MP has got it wrong. The proposal is that part of the new Link Road
between the two new roundabouts would be for emergency vehicles only. There
would be no distinction between residents and non-residents.

They are building a road purely for emergency vehicles. It gets better.

1. Get a newsreader that quotes properly.

2. Who is this incompetent MP who asks people to sign petitions rather
than establishing the facts and asking the borough council directly?

3. There's nothing wrong in principle with restricting a stretch of road
to emergency vehicles if the road network beyond the hospital doesn't
have the capacity for hordes of rat-runners.

3. Find a more relevant newsgroup or forum. Local road issues in Watford
are OT for utl.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message ...

3. Find a more relevant newsgroup or forum. Local road issues in Watford
are OT for utl.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

There is a thread on the Abbey Flyer and no doubt the Met ext to Watford
Junc will come up. If Watford can't be raised here then delete the Abbey
Flyer thread. I have no idea why my news reader doesn't quote properly.
Wasn't a problem before I went to Windows 7.

On 2014-06-06, Kevin wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message ...

3. Find a more relevant newsgroup or forum. Local road issues in Watford
are OT for utl.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

There is a thread on the Abbey Flyer and no doubt the Met ext to Watford
Junc will come up. If Watford can't be raised here then delete the Abbey
Flyer thread. I have no idea why my news reader doesn't quote properly.
Wasn't a problem before I went to Windows 7.

You replied below the previous poster's signature, so there will be
readers who have not seen what you actually said. I had to bypass my
newsreader's normal behaviour to get your words into this post to reply
to them. Your newsreader software may be a bit stupid, but I suspect you
could learn to use it so that your posts followed the normal Usenet
conventions.

As for OT, the Met is a London railway, even though it goes outside, as
would the Abbey Flyer be if it were Overgrounded. The link road has no
connection with London as such, though to be honest I would not have
bothered to object.

Eric
--
ms fnd in a lbry

Kevin wrote on 06 June 2014 22:45:56 ...
"Richard J." wrote in message ...

3. Find a more relevant newsgroup or forum. Local road issues in Watford
are OT for utl.

There is a thread on the Abbey Flyer and no doubt the Met ext to Watford
Junc will come up. If Watford can't be raised here then delete the Abbey
Flyer thread.

Yes, good idea. The Met to Watford is clearly a London issue. But
local road schemes in Watford aren't.

I have no idea why my news reader doesn't quote properly.
Wasn't a problem before I went to Windows 7.

Your reader also retains the previous poster's sig, so your response
appears as part of the sig, and is liable to be removed during the reply
process.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

"Eric" wrote in message ...

On 2014-06-06, Kevin wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message ...

3. Find a more relevant newsgroup or forum. Local road issues in Watford
are OT for utl.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

There is a thread on the Abbey Flyer and no doubt the Met ext to Watford
Junc will come up. If Watford can't be raised here then delete the Abbey
Flyer thread. I have no idea why my news reader doesn't quote properly.
Wasn't a problem before I went to Windows 7.

You replied below the previous poster's signature, so there will be
readers who have not seen what you actually said. I had to bypass my
newsreader's normal behaviour to get your words into this post to reply
to them. Your newsreader software may be a bit stupid, but I suspect you
could learn to use it so that your posts followed the normal Usenet
conventions.

As for OT, the Met is a London railway, even though it goes outside, as
would the Abbey Flyer be if it were Overgrounded. The link road has no
connection with London as such, though to be honest I would not have
bothered to object.

Eric
--
ms fnd in a lbry

I don't get the point that you are making. The Abbey Flyer is not a London
railway so why does the proposed take over by TfL get discussed here? When
and if the Abbey Flyer becomes a TfL railway then it would become valid to
discuss it even though it is in Herfordshire.

"Richard J." wrote in message news
Kevin wrote on 06 June 2014 22:45:56 ...
"Richard J." wrote in message ...

3. Find a more relevant newsgroup or forum. Local road issues in Watford
are OT for utl.

There is a thread on the Abbey Flyer and no doubt the Met ext to Watford
Junc will come up. If Watford can't be raised here then delete the Abbey
Flyer thread.

Yes, good idea. The Met to Watford is clearly a London issue. But
local road schemes in Watford aren't.

I have no idea why my news reader doesn't quote properly.
Wasn't a problem before I went to Windows 7.

Your reader also retains the previous poster's sig, so your response
appears as part of the sig, and is liable to be removed during the reply
process.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Why is the Met in Watford "clearly" a London issue?

In message , at 13:19:56 on
Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Kevin remarked:

The Abbey Flyer is not a London railway so why does the proposed
take over by TfL get discussed here?

Because the "L" in TfL is London.

ps You are still posting your replies into the signature field, many
people won't either read or reply as a result.
--
Roland Perry