"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 05:37:20 on
Tue, 17 Jun 2014, remarked:
Are you really proposing that local authorities should have the power
to change the law as they see fit?

They do it all the time. Every speed limit change or new yellow line
for example. Ely recently changed the law applying to the Broad
Street car park (such that it's now half and half long/short stay).
They also changed the law to allow cycling along quay/riverside
footpath, which I don't agree with but they did it anyway.

They only make regulations in accordance with powers granted to them by
Parliament. No powers, no regulations. What powers to deem somewhere not
in
their area to be in their area for any purpose can you describe?

The hackney licences cover a specific area (for hailing). Any sensible
system should allow the council to specify that in more detail than just
"The City of Cambridge", to allow for anomalies such as this[1].

Although you mentioned earlier that the new station forecourt isn't going
to be a Highway. Is there any prohibition on hackneys plying for hire on
*private* land outside their area (in this case 'The City')?

[1] Another anomaly I'm aware of is East Midlands Airport, which despite
being sometimes described as "Nottingham East Midlands" and with Derby as
the closest conurbation, is actually in Leicestershire.

Oh no it's not

Rushcliffe District, Nottinghamshire

tim

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2014\06\17 09:23, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:10:31 on Tue, 17
Jun 2014, Nick Maclaren remarked:
Perhaps a better way of putting it would be that South Cambridgeshire
would grant an implicit licence to all Cambridge taxis for that
location alone, and Cambridge would grant a 'wayleave' for South
Cambridgeshire taxis doing the same (if needed).

I don't think the South Cambs hackneys need a wayleave, they are already
permitted to drive in the City if they have picked up a fare in South
Cambs. The situation at the new station is exceptional because that
small patch of South Cambs [in effect just the railway sidings
themselves] is entirely land-locked by the railway and the only road
access is via the City.

An alternative would be to locate a section of taxi rank a couple of
hundred yards away from the station buildings, which is inside the City.

Borough boundaries can be moved. The boundary of Enfield was moved to
match the M25 in the 1990s.

As Colin has already indicated there was a proposal to move the city
boundary, specifically, in this case, to include all of the land south of
the A14.

He further indicated that this proposal failed to gain support (from someone
or other)

tim

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 11:31:48 on Tue,
17 Jun 2014, Basil Jet remarked:
An alternative would be to locate a section of taxi rank a couple of
hundred yards away from the station buildings, which is inside the City.

Borough boundaries can be moved. The boundary of Enfield was moved to
match the M25 in the 1990s.

Not just boroughs, but whole counties. Back in the day the boundary
between Hertfordshire and Cambridgshire went down the main street in
Royston. It was later moved to co-incide with the northern bypass.

and wholes boroughs between counties.

e.g. Bournemouth

tim

On 2014\06\17 14:49, tim..... wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...

[1] Another anomaly I'm aware of is East Midlands Airport, which
despite being sometimes described as "Nottingham East Midlands" and
with Derby as the closest conurbation, is actually in Leicestershire.

Oh no it's not

Rushcliffe District, Nottinghamshire

The station is in Notts, the airport is in Leics.

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2014\06\17 14:49, tim..... wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...

[1] Another anomaly I'm aware of is East Midlands Airport, which
despite being sometimes described as "Nottingham East Midlands" and
with Derby as the closest conurbation, is actually in Leicestershire.

Oh I see.

Roland's always going on about the station so I assumed that what he was
talking about here

:-(

tim



Oh no it's not

Rushcliffe District, Nottinghamshire

The station is in Notts, the airport is in Leics.

On 2014\06\17 14:55, tim..... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 11:31:48 on
Tue, 17 Jun 2014, Basil Jet remarked:
An alternative would be to locate a section of taxi rank a couple of
hundred yards away from the station buildings, which is inside the
City.

Borough boundaries can be moved. The boundary of Enfield was moved to
match the M25 in the 1990s.

Not just boroughs, but whole counties. Back in the day the boundary
between Hertfordshire and Cambridgshire went down the main street in
Royston. It was later moved to co-incide with the northern bypass.

and wholes boroughs between counties.

e.g. Bournemouth

Bournemouth is a unitary authority so is not covered by Dorset County
Council anyway, unlike Christchurch which also switched from Hants.

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2014\06\17 14:55, tim..... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 11:31:48 on
Tue, 17 Jun 2014, Basil Jet remarked:
An alternative would be to locate a section of taxi rank a couple of
hundred yards away from the station buildings, which is inside the
City.

Borough boundaries can be moved. The boundary of Enfield was moved to
match the M25 in the 1990s.

Not just boroughs, but whole counties. Back in the day the boundary
between Hertfordshire and Cambridgshire went down the main street in
Royston. It was later moved to co-incide with the northern bypass.

and wholes boroughs between counties.

e.g. Bournemouth

Bournemouth is a unitary authority so is not covered by Dorset County
Council anyway,

It is now.

but it wasn't when it moved

tim

In message , at 15:49:44 on Tue, 17
Jun 2014, tim..... remarked:
[1] Another anomaly I'm aware of is East Midlands Airport, which
despite being sometimes described as "Nottingham East Midlands" and
with Derby as the closest conurbation, is actually in Leicestershire.

Oh no it's not

Rushcliffe District, Nottinghamshire

I used to live in Rushcliffe and I know what its borders are (in that
vicinity, the River Soar). And also why the policemen patrolling East
Midlands Airport were wearing Leicestershire badges.

--
Roland Perry

In message , at 16:01:20 on Tue, 17
Jun 2014, tim..... remarked:
[1] Another anomaly I'm aware of is East Midlands Airport, which

*******

despite being sometimes described as "Nottingham East Midlands" and
with Derby as the closest conurbation, is actually in Leicestershire.

Oh I see.

Roland's always going on about the station so I assumed that what he
was talking about here

I think I'm capable of telling the difference between airports and
stations.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 06:57:14
on Tue, 17 Jun 2014, remarked:
Borough boundaries can be moved. The boundary of Enfield was moved to
match the M25 in the 1990s.

It seems to be easier in London. Cambridge has been stuck since 1934. A
lot of building across the boundary has taken place since then.

Including of course SJIC, which is literally built "across" the
border. The reception is in the City and the canteen is in South
Cambs. How do they apportion the business rates?

Not a problem. It's been done for years. Only a small part of SJIC is
outside the city, by the way. Unless they have extended it rather since we
were there.

The Bio-centre (or whatever it's called).
--
Roland Perry