In message , at 20:13:14 on Sun, 29 Jun
2014, Mizter T remarked:
13th October is the date for Travelcards to be available.

http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/tickets-...art-card/index

Does it still count as vapourware, Roland?

Currently yes, because what it actually says is:

"we're also working with TfL to introduce London Travelcards as part
of Phase 2"

....so while they can promise that they'll sell tickets to Fenchurch St
on their own network by then, they aren't sure about the Travelcard
part.

Not all vapourware fails to eventually appear - the vital element is
"advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a
concept or because it is still being written or designed", which I think
summarises this Travelcard aspect perfectly.

This is what I posted back in May:

" EMT FAQ:
From late 2012/early 2013, East Midlands Trains Smartcards can
be used on the London Underground. Until then, underground
tickets need to be purchased separately.

This is what Cubic (the supplier) said about ITSO-on-Prestige in
November 2013 (so it sounded quite imminent...)

The next stage of the project will see Cubic deploy the
technology to provide ITSO capability on the remaining Oyster
overground gate estate, with the final stage enabling London
Underground and buses to accept ITSO cards in early 2014.

Although TfL were claiming the gates had been done by the end of 2013,
and were just waiting for TOCs to be capable of issuing ITSO tickets
(which of course at least Southern and EMT had been doing for two
years, but whatever...)"

If TfL have gates already installed and are just waiting for a TOC to be
able to issue Travelcards on ITSO, what exactly are C2C "working on"
with them until [at least] October?
--
Roland Perry