In message , at 21:19:49 on Thu, 26 Jun
2014, MikeS remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
This Sunday, for the C-stock railtour:

Train 07:32 Cambridge [CBG] London Liverpool St [LST] 08:43
Walk 08:58 London L'pool St [LST] London Fenchurch St [FST] 09:02
Train 09:10 London Fenchurch St [FST] Limehouse [LHS] 09:14
Tube&DLR 09:19 Limehouse [LHS] Moorgate [MOG] 09:35

Alternatively:

Train 07:28 Cambridge [CBG] * Finsbury Park [FPK] 08:22
Tube 08:27 Finsbury Park [FPK] Highbury & Islington [HHY] 08:45
Train 08:51 Highbury & Islington [HHY] Shadwell [SDE] 09:06
Tube&DLR 09:11 Shadwell [SDE] Moorgate [MOG] 09:25

Does this indicate that the normal service on the Circle/H&C is suspended,
otherwise why wouldn't they just show connecting trains from LST/KGX to
MOG?

* Train to Kings Cross.

Yet another pointless attempt

It's not pointless at all. I have a very specific journey to make at a
rather inconvenient (for the timetabling) time of day.

to break the system.

There's absolutely no reason why such a simply journey should break it.

Any normal traveller uses the journey planner to find train times from
Cambridge to London,

Two searches, because NRES doesn't do "London Terminals".

sees the best option is to Kings Cross,

It's using services very early on a Sunday when not only are there no
trains yet out of bed at my home station (Ely), but it's not at all
obvious which route will be the best to London from Cambridge [partly
due to ongoing engineering works just outside Kings Cross].

and checks a tube map to see that from there it is 3 stops to Moorgate
(Northern or Met/Circle as you prefer).

Except it might be better (if the train times lined up) to change at
Tottenham Hale. This isn't the middle of a weekday with a choice of
trains every fifteen minutes[1] and in effect a turn-up-and-go service;
it's a collection of stoppers about an hour apart and one missed
connection could throw the whole day's outing into chaos.

If you want more info TfL's planner tells you its 6 minutes either
route and fine on Sunday.

What's wrong with expecting the official one-stop-shop journey planner
to give me the right answer?

[1] From Cambridge. But there are from Stansted Airport, even that hour
on a Sunday; so it's quite possible the best route into London will
involve one of those.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote on 27 June 2014 09:44:42 ...
In message , at 17:13:15
on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner, Roland. it
offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to LST and
walk.

NRES, yesterday, and still doing it today.

Oh I see. I gave up on NRES years ago.

I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because the
Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

The TfL journey planner will handle Ely. Just enter From "Ely", station
or stop in "Ely".

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In message , at 10:48:33 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, Richard J. remarked:
I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because the
Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

The TfL journey planner will handle Ely. Just enter From "Ely",
station or stop in "Ely".

Good grief. I'd have tried "in... Cambs". Got nothing, and assumed it
didn't go out that far.

There's something about the way the TfL planner works that I simply
don't get on with (see recent discussion about typing in "Kings Cross"
and being offered things like Kingsbury/Blackbird Cross).

--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
17:13:15 on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner, Roland.
it offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to
LST and walk.

NRES, yesterday, and still doing it today.

Oh I see. I gave up on NRES years ago.

I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because
the Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

Neither did I but I guessed you might have used it and therefore tried it
and surprised myself (and you too no doubt).

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 10:48:33 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, Richard J. remarked:
I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because the
Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

The TfL journey planner will handle Ely. Just enter From "Ely",
station or stop in "Ely".

Good grief. I'd have tried "in... Cambs". Got nothing, and assumed it
didn't go out that far.

There's something about the way the TfL planner works that I simply
don't get on with (see recent discussion about typing in "Kings
Cross" and being offered things like Kingsbury/Blackbird Cross).

I know what you mean. I still haven't worked out what to type it to stop it
asking me if I mean Caledonian Road or something.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote in message
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In article , (Roland
Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
17:13:15 on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, remarked:
I can't reproduce your lot, even with the TfL Journey Planner,
Roland.
it offers the 0728 to the Cross, then H&C/Circle/Met or the 0732 to
LST and walk.

NRES, yesterday, and still doing it today.

Oh I see. I gave up on NRES years ago.

I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because
the Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

Neither did I but I guessed you might have used it and therefore tried it
and surprised myself (and you too no doubt).

It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from Underground TO
to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London based upon there being
"barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]

tim

[1] Or there was at the time, if there isn't now - it's ages since I
actually stood on the platform there



--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 13:44:13 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, tim..... remarked:
I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because
the Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

Neither did I but I guessed you might have used it and therefore tried it
and surprised myself (and you too no doubt).

It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London based
upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]

I always took that for granted, having grown up in the 60's living in
Chelmsford and being able to buy a ticket to there, from a London
Underground station. I don't know to what extent that was a result of
the cross-platform interchange at Stratford, or whether it was a more
general capability.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 13:44:13 on Fri, 27
Jun 2014, tim..... remarked:
I didn't think the TfL journey planner would stretch out as far as
Cambridge (well, Ely really, I'm only starting in Cambridge because
the Sunday service from Ely has let me down).

Neither did I but I guessed you might have used it and therefore tried
it and surprised myself (and you too no doubt).

It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London based
upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]

I always took that for granted, having grown up in the 60's living in
Chelmsford and being able to buy a ticket to there, from a London
Underground station. I don't know to what extent that was a result of
the cross-platform interchange at Stratford, or whether it was a more
general capability.

A legacy of the District services to Upminster and Southend, maybe?

[1] Or there was at the time, if there isn't now - it's ages since I
actually stood on the platform there

Gone now, on FCC at least.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 09:26:20
on Fri, 27 Jun 2014, remarked:
It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London based
upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]
....
Gone now, on FCC at least.

The barrier free interchange, or the through ticketing?
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
09:26:20 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014, remarked:
It always used to surprise me that you could buy tickets from
Underground TO to places, like Cambridge, well outside of London based
upon there being "barrier" free interchange at Finsbury Park [1]
...
Gone now, on FCC at least.

The barrier free interchange, or the through ticketing?

The barrier-free interchange I know. The ticketing I can't comment on though
I thought all or most through tickets from LU to NR destinations had ended?

--
Colin Rosenstiel