On 02/07/2014 12:55, Paul Corfield wrote:

I suspect the timings are set for people who are encumbered and need
to use lifts or struggle with stairs. As an airport station that seems
a reasonable assumption

Though perhaps not with the kinds of air passengers using Luton. If you
can afford to take a heavy bag, you can afford not to be flying Wizz
from Luton.

Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In message , at
23:45:22 on Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.

At Kings Cross they have those creepy front-projected cardboard cut-outs
telling you *not* to use the escalators if you have baggage.

And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play a
message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press the
illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
23:45:22 on Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.

At Kings Cross they have those creepy front-projected cardboard
cut-outs telling you *not* to use the escalators if you have baggage.

And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play
a message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press
the illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

That might be because the current buttons aren't up to the PRM spec. Once
the 365s are all refurbished that might change,

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 08:24:21 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:
And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now
play a
message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press
the
illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

The number of times I have seen people nearly miss their stop by not
doing so causes me to think otherwise. Particularly on Pacers where
they are not obviously located. And an airport train/station will
probably have a disproportionate number of first time passengers.

Neil

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Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.

In message , at
17:05:55 on Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Neil Williams
remarked:
And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play
a message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press
the illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

The number of times I have seen people nearly miss their stop by not
doing so causes me to think otherwise. Particularly on Pacers where
they are not obviously located. And an airport train/station will
probably have a disproportionate number of first time passengers.

I'm talking about full-and-standing commuter trains arriving at
Cambridge. They will have worked out how to get the doors open by now.
--
Roland Perry

On 03/07/2014 08:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
23:45:22 on Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.

At Kings Cross they have those creepy front-projected cardboard cut-outs
telling you *not* to use the escalators if you have baggage.

And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play a
message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press the
illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

There are regular LU-only passengers who are used to doors opening by
magic, and who laugh at yokels needlessly pressing door buttons. And who
in return get laughed by the yokels when they do use National Rail, and
the doors don't open unless you push the button.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 03/07/2014 08:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
23:45:22 on Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
Nothing says "Welcome to Britain" more than the recorded messages
telling you how to use the escalators, presumably for the benefit of
Johnny Foreigner who has never before encountered such things in his
primitive Continental homeland.

At Kings Cross they have those creepy front-projected cardboard cut-outs
telling you *not* to use the escalators if you have baggage.

And getting back to FCC, and patronising announcements, they now play a
message about how to open the doors. Apparently you have to press the
illuminated button, who'd a thunk-it?

There are regular LU-only passengers who are used to doors opening by
magic, and who laugh at yokels needlessly pressing door buttons. And who
in return get laughed by the yokels when they do use National Rail, and
the doors don't open unless you push the button.

True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Neil

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Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS? LU
certainly hasn't been very consistent about the fitting and usage of
door buttons over the years.

On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:07:05 +0100
Recliner wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:35:58 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:08:42 -0500, Recliner
wrote:
True, it happens to me. Of course, with the new air-conditioned S
stock
trains, the doors soon close during a long stop, but can be opened
again as
long as the door buttons remain illuminated.

The door buttons have been removed on the refurbished Northern Line
stock (which looks like it should be on the Picc as the interior is
the wrong colour).

Have the door buttons ever been functional on the 1995 TS? LU
certainly hasn't been very consistent about the fitting and usage of
door buttons over the years.

Didn't they do the same on the D stock? Must depend on what group of directors
are in charge at any given time whether the trains get door buttons or not,
though you'd think it would be simpler and cost less to leave buttons already
there in place, not to mention the short sightedness of removing functionality
for no apparent gain.

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Spud