In message , at 07:46:16
on Tue, 12 Aug 2014, remarked:
Oh do keep up... that's what I've been wondering for days - and
whether it's the same thing for all their Non-Gatex routes, or three
different things. We've even been speculating about whether from
2018 trains from Cambridge will be on the PIS as "Greater Northern"
and "Thameslink" depending on where they end up south of Finsbury
Park.

As I said the Great Northern factsheet shows their trains continuing to
Blackfriars from 2018.

But those are "Thameslink" trains.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
07:46:16 on Tue, 12 Aug 2014, remarked:
Oh do keep up... that's what I've been wondering for days - and
whether it's the same thing for all their Non-Gatex routes, or three
different things. We've even been speculating about whether from
2018 trains from Cambridge will be on the PIS as "Greater Northern"
and "Thameslink" depending on where they end up south of Finsbury
Park.

As I said the Great Northern factsheet shows their trains continuing to
Blackfriars from 2018.

But those are "Thameslink" trains.

YMTTICPC.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Given each TOC will have their own HOPS and it will need to talk to

Tfl's systems and there will need to be data exchange, sharing,

revenue settlement etc I can see why there may be complications.



Again, I don't know what's so different about revenue settlement at the

point of use of a Travelcard (rather than when it's sold). When it's

being used all that needs to be done is validate that it's "in Zone".



Or are you saying that unbeknown to the passengers they are counting how

much the Travelcard is actually (rather than potentially) used on which

routes, and divvying up the revenue retrospectively?



Someone sent me this link



http://issuu.com/abelliogroup/docs/o...july___for_int



That's got one of the worst user-interfaces I've ever seen (not your

fault, obviously).



- take a look at page 5 to get a tiny glimpse of what is being planned

by Abellio Greater Anglia for SEFT / ITSO.



I expect I'm more likely to be using a TSGN ITSO card (for my travel to

London); it'll be interesting to see if those interoperate well with

ITSO gates at places like Cambridge which are operated by GA.





Southern are now advertising that Travelcards are now available on The Key.

"New key smartcard tickets available

Travelling into and around London? Now available on the key smartcard are weekly, monthly and annual season tickets inclusive of a travelcard, which will allow you to use trains, buses, trams and London Underground.

You can also purchase single and return tickets from any key-enabled Southern station outside the London travelcard area to any Southern station in the London zones.

Tickets can be purchased from southernrailway.com or from a Southern self service ticket machine"

https://www.southernrailway.com/smart-card/

In message , at
09:21:17 on Wed, 20 Aug 2014, Matthew Dickinson
remarked:
Southern are now advertising that Travelcards are now available on The Key.

"New key smartcard tickets available

Travelling into and around London? Now available on the key smartcard are weekly, monthly and annual season tickets inclusive of a travelcard,
which will allow you to use trains, buses, trams and London Underground.

You can also purchase single and return tickets from any key-enabled Southern station outside the London travelcard area to any Southern
station in the London zones.

Tickets can be purchased from southernrailway.com or from a Southern self service ticket machine"

https://www.southernrailway.com/smart-card/

Although the FAQ still says:

from summer 2014, you will be able to load a Travelcard onto the
key for use on National Rail, London Underground, DLR and buses

Seems to be a rather low-key [sorry] soft launch of the Travelcard
option.
--
Roland Perry