I am currently sat in the 319 unit that's been painted into the new GTR
livery. Nothing has changed inside, it's still an awkward combination of
half-covered Eddie Pond artwork and FCC seat covers.

However, as I understand it, the livery came before the award to the
franchisee - so who 'designed' it?

Are Govia going to change it again come September?

I also notice that every FCC bit of branding on every in-carriage poster
has been covered over.

Lew

In message , at
10:35:28 on Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Lew 1 remarked:
I am currently sat in the 319 unit that's been painted into the new GTR
livery. Nothing has changed inside, it's still an awkward combination of
half-covered Eddie Pond artwork and FCC seat covers.

Does it say "GTR" on the livery, or "Great Northern", or something
anonymous, albeit in different colours to FCC?

Does Govia have any material showing the livery. I recall that Arriva-XC
did, long before they started repainting any trains.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
10:35:28 on Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Lew 1 remarked:
I am currently sat in the 319 unit that's been painted into the new GTR
livery. Nothing has changed inside, it's still an awkward combination of
half-covered Eddie Pond artwork and FCC seat covers.

Does it say "GTR" on the livery, or "Great Northern", or something
anonymous, albeit in different colours to FCC?

Does Govia have any material showing the livery. I recall that Arriva-XC
did, long before they started repainting any trains.

It's just plain white with blue doors. No operator name or branding at all.
It's the same livery as the Class 700 mockup months ago, which is why I'm
surprised that the new livery seems to pre-date the franchise award.

Lew

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:52:29 +0000 (UTC), Lew 1 wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
10:35:28 on Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Lew 1 remarked:
I am currently sat in the 319 unit that's been painted into the new GTR
livery. Nothing has changed inside, it's still an awkward combination of
half-covered Eddie Pond artwork and FCC seat covers.

Does it say "GTR" on the livery, or "Great Northern", or something
anonymous, albeit in different colours to FCC?

Does Govia have any material showing the livery. I recall that Arriva-XC
did, long before they started repainting any trains.

It's just plain white with blue doors. No operator name or branding at all.
It's the same livery as the Class 700 mockup months ago, which is why I'm
surprised that the new livery seems to pre-date the franchise award.

That's probably because it's not Govia's real new livery. I assume
that'll be unveiled with a flourish on the first day of the new
franchise.

In message , at
11:52:29 on Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Lew 1 remarked:
I am currently sat in the 319 unit that's been painted into the new GTR
livery. Nothing has changed inside, it's still an awkward combination of
half-covered Eddie Pond artwork and FCC seat covers.

Does it say "GTR" on the livery, or "Great Northern", or something
anonymous, albeit in different colours to FCC?

Does Govia have any material showing the livery. I recall that Arriva-XC
did, long before they started repainting any trains.

It's just plain white with blue doors. No operator name or branding at all.
It's the same livery as the Class 700 mockup months ago, which is why I'm
surprised that the new livery seems to pre-date the franchise award.

That's not a "livery" it's a "placeholder" hoping that one day the
incoming TOC will come up with a livery.
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:52:29 +0000 (UTC), Lew 1 wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
10:35:28 on Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Lew 1 remarked:
I am currently sat in the 319 unit that's been painted into the new
GTR livery. Nothing has changed inside, it's still an awkward
combination of half-covered Eddie Pond artwork and FCC seat covers.

Does it say "GTR" on the livery, or "Great Northern", or something
anonymous, albeit in different colours to FCC?

Does Govia have any material showing the livery. I recall that
Arriva-XC did, long before they started repainting any trains.

The GTR presentation didn't suggest any train liveries IIRC.

It's just plain white with blue doors. No operator name or branding at
all. It's the same livery as the Class 700 mockup months ago, which is
why I'm surprised that the new livery seems to pre-date the franchise
award.

That's probably because it's not Govia's real new livery. I assume
that'll be unveiled with a flourish on the first day of the new
franchise.

I agree. It's also the new livery for refurbished 365s on GN but no-one
seems to have noticed the connection. I think it's just the new style
"neutral" livery dictated by DfT to reduce paint suppliers' profits from
franchise changes. See also GA white with red doors.

--
Colin Rosenstiel