In message , at 12:59:33 on Wed, 3 Sep 2014,
Mizter T remarked:
Gatwick is as convenient to get to and from as Heathrow for us in
Cambridge.

But presumably Stansted is far better than either?

Yes, but with very limited destinations. Almost nothing outside Europe.
And even then, the last two European trips booked by household members
used different airports (in particular Gatwick for one on account of
route availability). And of course Stansted is famously no good for the
USA, although during the short periods when that continent was
available, we did use it.

I wouldn't say the destinations reachable from Stansted were "very
limited"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_...port#Passenger

How many destinations outside Europe? (OK, I see there's a flight to Las
Vegas planned for next year).

I used to fly to Geneva a lot (on business all year round) and all they
seem to have now is one seasonal route.
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Roland Perry

On 03/09/2014 13:50, Roland Perry wrote:
[...]
Gatwick is as convenient to get to and from as Heathrow for us in
Cambridge.

But presumably Stansted is far better than either?

Yes, but with very limited destinations. Almost nothing outside Europe.
And even then, the last two European trips booked by household members
used different airports (in particular Gatwick for one on account of
route availability). And of course Stansted is famously no good for the
USA, although during the short periods when that continent was
available, we did use it.

I wouldn't say the destinations reachable from Stansted were "very
limited"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_...port#Passenger

How many destinations outside Europe? (OK, I see there's a flight to Las
Vegas planned for next year).

Just because most destinations are in Europe doesn't equate to the
airport serving "very limited destinations" - that would mean just a few
destinations, and there are in fact many.


I used to fly to Geneva a lot (on business all year round) and all they
seem to have now is one seasonal route.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:01:06 +0100, Mizter T
wrote:


On 03/09/2014 13:50, Roland Perry wrote:
[...]
Gatwick is as convenient to get to and from as Heathrow for us in
Cambridge.

But presumably Stansted is far better than either?

Yes, but with very limited destinations. Almost nothing outside Europe.
And even then, the last two European trips booked by household members
used different airports (in particular Gatwick for one on account of
route availability). And of course Stansted is famously no good for the
USA, although during the short periods when that continent was
available, we did use it.

I wouldn't say the destinations reachable from Stansted were "very
limited"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_...port#Passenger

How many destinations outside Europe? (OK, I see there's a flight to Las
Vegas planned for next year).

Just because most destinations are in Europe doesn't equate to the
airport serving "very limited destinations" - that would mean just a few
destinations, and there are in fact many.

But don't some have very limited schedules (not even daily, let alone
multiple times a day)?

In message , at 14:01:06 on Wed, 3 Sep 2014,
Mizter T remarked:
How many destinations outside Europe? (OK, I see there's a flight to Las
Vegas planned for next year).

Just because most destinations are in Europe doesn't equate to the
airport serving "very limited destinations"

It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It
Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers
try Heathrow", then fine.

- that would mean just a few destinations, and there are in fact many.

I wonder how many are served the twice a day needed to make useful
business trips (out in the morning, back in the evening a day or two
later). I suspect (but don't have the time to check) that many
destinations are less than daily.
--
Roland Perry

On 2014-09-03 14:44:46 +0000, Roland Perry said:

It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It
Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other fliers
try Heathrow", then fine.

Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe,
and it has a massive array of such services. So I disagree with you.

Neil
--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the @ to reply.

On 03/09/2014 15:52, Neil Williams wrote:

On 2014-09-03 14:44:46 +0000, Roland Perry said:

It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It
Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other
fliers try Heathrow", then fine.

Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe,
and it has a massive array of such services. So I disagree with you.

On that theme, a significant number of pax from around Europe use it for
DIY transfers.

In message , at 15:52:57 on Wed, 3 Sep
2014, Neil Williams remarked:

It does, because many people have destinations outside Europe. It
Stansted wants to re-brand as "The gateway to Europe - all other
fliers try Heathrow", then fine.

Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe,
and it has a massive array of such services. So I disagree with you.

Are you saying that the branding I mentioned is already what the general
public understands to be the case?
--
Roland Perry

On 2014-09-03 15:10:56 +0000, Roland Perry said:

Are you saying that the branding I mentioned is already what the
general public understands to be the case?

Branding by the airport? Probably not. But it is certainly well
understood that, essentially, you go to Stansted to fly Ryanair (or to
a much lesser extent easyJet) to Europe.

It isnt *branded* as anything other than London Stansted Airport, which
says nothing about where you can fly from there.

Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the @ to reply.

In message , at 16:22:06 on Wed, 3 Sep
2014, Neil Williams remarked:
Are you saying that the branding I mentioned is already what the
general public understands to be the case?

Branding by the airport? Probably not. But it is certainly well
understood that, essentially, you go to Stansted to fly Ryanair (or to
a much lesser extent easyJet) to Europe.

It's certainly been increasingly dominated by Ryanair, who no doubt make
lots of money flying people back and forth to one horse towns in Eastern
Europe.

But this doesn't make it a useful set of routes for most of us, nor the
airline we'd choose to use on business (they aren't the only one, people
using holiday charters could run into the same problem).

It isnt *branded* as anything other than London Stansted Airport, which
says nothing about where you can fly from there.

Branding extends to much more than the name.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 03:52:57PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:

Stansted already is an airport you go to if you want a LCC to Europe,

What on earth is a LCC?

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