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![]() wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 16:41:29 +0100 "tim....." wrote: wrote in message As someone who: Rarely has a car, usually travelling by bus/train/walk/bike Keeps the thermostat down low so as not to over heat the house always takes my own reusable bags to the supermarket Puts everything possible in the recycling bag never disposes of material things until they have worn out and never in my life have I thrown away a food item because I let it get out of date/go stale I have a problem with someone else deciding what particular things I have to do to make my contribution to saving the planet Thats odd given the above reads like a Greenpeace wish list. Did you coincidentaly think it up all by yourself in a vacuum? It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that people don't do that wastes energy of course it's going to look like the list of things that people want us to do if I do, in fact, do them. I could have added, "I save energy by not ironing my sheets" which isn't on anybody's list AFAICT if you want me to add some variety tim |
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In message , at 13:26:53 on Sun, 7 Sep
2014, tim..... remarked: never disposes of material things until they have worn out .... It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that people don't do that wastes energy How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"? It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on. Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out", even if the only thing which has expired is Microsoft's enthusiasm to continue support (I could give numerous similar examples). -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote in message news ![]() In message , at 13:26:53 on Sun, 7 Sep 2014, tim..... remarked: never disposes of material things until they have worn out ... It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that people don't do that wastes energy How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"? I was just making the point that I don't: wear something once and never again or replace electrical goods because they aren't the latest colour, or even because they don't have the most recent number on the front It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on. I know, but that isn't always a useful disposal, and if the person who buys it is only going to wear it once and than they throw it away, it hasn't solved the problem Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out", I don't know. I've never got a PC to last longer than about 4 years without "blowing up" in some way. tim |
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In message , at 15:24:56 on Sun, 7 Sep
2014, tim..... remarked: never disposes of material things until they have worn out ... It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that people don't do that wastes energy How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"? I was just making the point that I don't: wear something once and never again or replace electrical goods because they aren't the latest colour, or even because they don't have the most recent number on the front It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on. I know, but that isn't always a useful disposal, and if the person who buys it is only going to wear it once and than they throw it away, it hasn't solved the problem Ah, perhaps when you said "material" you mainly meant "clothing" rather than "tangible". Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out", I don't know. I've never got a PC to last longer than about 4 years without "blowing up" in some way. Gosh. My laptop is over four years old and I still regard it as "new". My desktop PC is coming up for ten years old and the only real problem with it is the XP [I have upgraded its HDD capacity though]. -- Roland Perry |
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 15:34:17 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 15:24:56 on Sun, 7 Sep Gosh. My laptop is over four years old and I still regard it as "new". My desktop PC is coming up for ten years old and the only real problem with it is the XP [I have upgraded its HDD capacity though]. I've still got a machine from 99 that I use for backup. Still works perfectly plus it has a pair of old style RS232 serial ports which come in handy occasionally which is why I'm hanging onto it until it dies. -- Spud |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , at 15:24:56 on Sun, 7 Sep 2014, tim..... remarked: never disposes of material things until they have worn out ... It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that people don't do that wastes energy How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"? I was just making the point that I don't: wear something once and never again or replace electrical goods because they aren't the latest colour, or even because they don't have the most recent number on the front It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on. I know, but that isn't always a useful disposal, and if the person who buys it is only going to wear it once and than they throw it away, it hasn't solved the problem Ah, perhaps when you said "material" you mainly meant "clothing" rather than "tangible". I was referring to anything that a sub-set of the population just discard because they have had it a few months and want a new one because marking people tell them that they need a new one I wasn't referring to things that have a "natural" second hand market Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out", I don't know. I've never got a PC to last longer than about 4 years without "blowing up" in some way. Gosh. My laptop is over four years old and I still regard it as "new". My desktop PC is coming up for ten years old and the only real problem with it is the XP [I have upgraded its HDD capacity though]. I accept that I have been "unlucky", but that is just how it is tim |
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