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On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 16:41:29 +0100
"tim....." wrote:
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As someone who:

Rarely has a car, usually travelling by bus/train/walk/bike

Keeps the thermostat down low so as not to over heat the house

always takes my own reusable bags to the supermarket

Puts everything possible in the recycling bag

never disposes of material things until they have worn out

and never in my life have I thrown away a food item because I let it get
out
of date/go stale

I have a problem with someone else deciding what particular things I have
to
do to make my contribution to saving the planet

Thats odd given the above reads like a Greenpeace wish list. Did you
coincidentaly think it up all by yourself in a vacuum?

It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that
people don't do that wastes energy

of course it's going to look like the list of things that people want us to
do if I do, in fact, do them.

I could have added, "I save energy by not ironing my sheets" which isn't on
anybody's list AFAICT if you want me to add some variety

tim

In message , at 13:26:53 on Sun, 7 Sep
2014, tim..... remarked:

never disposes of material things until they have worn out

....

It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains
that people don't do that wastes energy

How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"?

It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to
friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on.

Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out", even if
the only thing which has expired is Microsoft's enthusiasm to continue
support (I could give numerous similar examples).
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Roland Perry

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In message , at 13:26:53 on Sun, 7 Sep
2014, tim..... remarked:

never disposes of material things until they have worn out

...

It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains that
people don't do that wastes energy

How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"?

I was just making the point that I don't:

wear something once and never again

or replace electrical goods because they aren't the latest colour,

or even because they don't have the most recent number on the front

It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to
friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on.

I know, but that isn't always a useful disposal, and if the person who buys
it is only going to wear it once and than they throw it away, it hasn't
solved the problem


Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out",

I don't know.

I've never got a PC to last longer than about 4 years without "blowing up"
in some way.

tim

In message , at 15:24:56 on Sun, 7 Sep
2014, tim..... remarked:
never disposes of material things until they have worn out

...

It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains
that people don't do that wastes energy

How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"?

I was just making the point that I don't:

wear something once and never again

or replace electrical goods because they aren't the latest colour,

or even because they don't have the most recent number on the front

It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to
friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on.

I know, but that isn't always a useful disposal, and if the person who
buys it is only going to wear it once and than they throw it away, it
hasn't solved the problem

Ah, perhaps when you said "material" you mainly meant "clothing" rather
than "tangible".

Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out",

I don't know.

I've never got a PC to last longer than about 4 years without "blowing
up" in some way.

Gosh. My laptop is over four years old and I still regard it as "new".
My desktop PC is coming up for ten years old and the only real problem
with it is the XP [I have upgraded its HDD capacity though].
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Roland Perry

On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 15:34:17 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:24:56 on Sun, 7 Sep
Gosh. My laptop is over four years old and I still regard it as "new".
My desktop PC is coming up for ten years old and the only real problem
with it is the XP [I have upgraded its HDD capacity though].

I've still got a machine from 99 that I use for backup. Still works perfectly
plus it has a pair of old style RS232 serial ports which come in handy
occasionally which is why I'm hanging onto it until it dies.

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Spud

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 15:24:56 on Sun, 7 Sep
2014, tim..... remarked:
never disposes of material things until they have worn out

...

It's the list of things that I do that the press regularly complains
that people don't do that wastes energy

How strictly is "dispose of" correlated with "throw away"?

I was just making the point that I don't:

wear something once and never again

or replace electrical goods because they aren't the latest colour,

or even because they don't have the most recent number on the front

It's also possible to sell things, freecycle/eBay/Gumtree, give to
friends/relatives/neighbours/Oxfam and so on.

I know, but that isn't always a useful disposal, and if the person who
buys it is only going to wear it once and than they throw it away, it
hasn't solved the problem

Ah, perhaps when you said "material" you mainly meant "clothing" rather
than "tangible".

I was referring to anything that a sub-set of the population just discard
because they have had it a few months and want a new one because marking
people tell them that they need a new one

I wasn't referring to things that have a "natural" second hand market



Does a PC that'll only run Windows XP now qualify as "worn out",

I don't know.

I've never got a PC to last longer than about 4 years without "blowing up"
in some way.

Gosh. My laptop is over four years old and I still regard it as "new". My
desktop PC is coming up for ten years old and the only real problem with
it is the XP [I have upgraded its HDD capacity though].

I accept that I have been "unlucky", but that is just how it is

tim