In article , TheOneKEA
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John Haines wrote in message
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I don't know when they started to plan Oyster, but the gateline
layout at Stratford dates from about 1996 (from memory). Originally
there was only going to be the one gateline in the new Concourse -
that guarding the Jubilee Line. The old station entrance (to the
east of the concourse) had no gateline or even proper ticket
barriers.

Does this mean that before Jubilee Line services terminated at
Stratford it was possible to reach the Central Line, the DLR and the
mainline platforms without actually possessing a valid ticket?
Fascinating.

Yes.

Originally there was only funding (from LUL) for the western half -
approximately the western 2/3rds of the current Concourse. The Jubilee
line gateline was part of this scheme but it would not have provided a
new entrance. The old entrance and linking tunnel from the shopping
centre, which looked a bit like entering a public toilet (mostly
subterranean and white tiled) would have stayed.

Funding for the eastern half, mainly from Newham, was in place just in
time to start construction with a single unified design.

Part of the design brief was to produce a structure which could be
extended. This concept, although rendered unnecessary, was too far
embedded to change. The whole roof structure, including the front
truss, is basically a kit of parts connected together with bolts. Even
the front concrete piers are bolted down (and then the pocket filled
with concrete).

The Architects we worked with, then called Chris Wilkinson Architects,
now Wilkinson Eyre Architects, went on to win the Sterling prize for
architecture two years running - Magna and the Gateshead millennium
bridge. (- and if that's not the way to spell the m word, blame my
spell checker).

John Haines

John Haines wrote the following in:


Originally there was only funding (from LUL) for the western half
- approximately the western 2/3rds of the current Concourse. The
Jubilee line gateline was part of this scheme but it would not
have provided a new entrance. The old entrance and linking tunnel
from the shopping centre, which looked a bit like entering a
public toilet (mostly subterranean and white tiled) would have
stayed.

The closure of the subway to the station from the shopping centre is
the only part of the design that I don't like. It's a shame they had to
do that although I suppose it's much better than keeping the original
entrance which was not nice at all.

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Robin May wrote:

The closure of the subway to the station from the shopping centre is
the only part of the design that I don't like. It's a shame they had to
do that although I suppose it's much better than keeping the original
entrance which was not nice at all.

I find that it effects an active darwinian selection mechansim - the odd
hurried fleet-footed people seem to cross whenever there's a slight gap in
the traffic, and about 50 dazed shopping-laden people barely consciously
follow like sheep into the slaughter, irrespective of the state of the not
very visible green person.

--
Ian Tindale

In article , Robin
May wrote:
John Haines wrote the following in:


Originally there was only funding (from LUL) for the western half -
approximately the western 2/3rds of the current Concourse. The
Jubilee line gateline was part of this scheme but it would not have
provided a new entrance. The old entrance and linking tunnel from
the shopping centre, which looked a bit like entering a public
toilet (mostly subterranean and white tiled) would have stayed.

The closure of the subway to the station from the shopping centre is
the only part of the design that I don't like. It's a shame they had
to do that although I suppose it's much better than keeping the
original entrance which was not nice at all.

It blocked access to what is now the taxi area at the eastern end of
the Concourse.
It was also regarded as a security problem.

John Haines