In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:48:16 -0500,
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In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

Have fun.

That's the plan. I suppose ending up at a west end pub for a meal might
be part of it too.

On past experience I can recommend the Jugged Hare, a Fullers pub,
down Vauxhall Bridge Road from Victoria, by Rochester Row. Beer and
food both decent and they will reserve an area for you if you arrange
in advance.

Plenty of Boris Buses at Victoria plus you can show the students the
extent of the site works for the expansion of Victoria LU. You also
have a direct tube to KX to connect for Cambridge.

Thanks for those further suggestions. I'll try and report back on progress!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

My favourite piece of London's transport is the hand-operated pedestrian
chain ferry to Trowlock Island in Trowlock Way, Teddington. It's about
the size of a single bed. It rocks like a double bed ;-)

Various Charles Holden stations, particularly Southgate at night.

The old passimeter in Arnos Grove.

The "See How They Run" dials in the foyer of 55 Broadway for the six
historic lines.

The silver tubes which stop big trains going into small tunnels at
Barons Court, Finchley Road.

Did they put humps for wheelchair access on certain platforms?

Those lovely escalators at Southwark station.

The Eurostar station at St Pancras and the former one at Waterloo.

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

The views over the Thames on the District /NLL near Kew Gardens (IIRC
the Thames view is obscured on the Putney Bridge line)

The Bakerloo passes through a shed in both directions between Queens
Park and Kensal Green.

Behind the Marks and Spencers in Southgate you can see the Picc tunnel
entrances, and see how the entrance tunnel is much larger than the exit
one (the entrance is tapered to lessen the sonic boom from trains
entering the tunnel at speed.

The fake houses in Leinster Gardens.

The abandoned open-air platforms at Highgate Station.

The metal hooks for tying up boats set into the pavement of Surrey Canal
Road, revealing that the road is a former canal and the pavements are
unreconstructed tow-paths.

The bridge over Waterloo Road which used to carry the connection from
the South East Lines across the Waterloo concourse.

Deep level shelters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_deep-level_shelters

Escalator cavern at Westminster Station

The Underground entrances set into the corner of the Bank Of England,
and the air grilles hidden in the Greathead Statue in Cornhill. The
Greathead shield which forms part of the passageway to the W&C.
http://www.greathead.org/greathead2-o/JHG3.htm

Thames Tunnel and the Brunel Museum

Old station tiling at Arsenal station saying "Gillespie Road"

Stations with lifts, e.g. Russell Square or Covent Garden.

The old train indicators at Earls Court District Line

The big platforms at Euston and Angel

The tiny platforms at Clapham tube stations

On 02/11/14 14:35, Basil Jet wrote:
....
Behind the Marks and Spencers in Southgate you can see the Picc tunnel
entrances, and see how the entrance tunnel is much larger than the exit
one (the entrance is tapered to lessen the sonic boom from trains
entering the tunnel at speed.

Wow! The Piccadilly Line must have got a lot faster since I was last there.
--
Phil
Liverpool, UK

On 2014\11\02 21:41, Phil wrote:
On 02/11/14 14:35, Basil Jet wrote:
...
Behind the Marks and Spencers in Southgate you can see the Picc tunnel
entrances, and see how the entrance tunnel is much larger than the exit
one (the entrance is tapered to lessen the sonic boom from trains
entering the tunnel at speed.

Wow! The Piccadilly Line must have got a lot faster since I was last
there.

http://www.1stforprint.co.uk/ebaylis...be_preview.jpg

In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

My favourite piece of London's transport is the hand-operated
pedestrian chain ferry to Trowlock Island in Trowlock Way,
Teddington. It's about the size of a single bed. It rocks like a
double bed ;-)

Hmm. Maybe.

Various Charles Holden stations, particularly Southgate at night.

The old passimeter in Arnos Grove.

Maybe. The trouble with the far end of the Piccadilly line may be the travel
time to get there.

The "See How They Run" dials in the foyer of 55 Broadway for the six
historic lines.

Are they still there? I didn't see them when I worked in Westminster and
frequently used the station. I remember the old ones which also covered
trolleybuses.

The silver tubes which stop big trains going into small tunnels at
Barons Court, Finchley Road.

Could be hard to see from a moving train.

Did they put humps for wheelchair access on certain platforms?

Those lovely escalators at Southwark station.

I don't remember how they differ from others on the JLE. Canary Wharf is
pretty impressive.

The Eurostar station at St Pancras and the former one at Waterloo.

Difficult to see much when not travelling which I suspect quite a few on the
trip might have done.

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

Also Farringdon. I couldn't see much at Mitre Bridge and that was when they
had to stop.

The views over the Thames on the District /NLL near Kew Gardens (IIRC
the Thames view is obscured on the Putney Bridge line)

All true. Went on the West London on Saturday.

The Bakerloo passes through a shed in both directions between Queens
Park and Kensal Green.

True. Quite a lot of railway installations to see round there too, e.g. from
the West London.

Behind the Marks and Spencers in Southgate you can see the Picc
tunnel entrances, and see how the entrance tunnel is much larger than
the exit one (the entrance is tapered to lessen the sonic boom from
trains entering the tunnel at speed.

The fake houses in Leinster Gardens.

The abandoned open-air platforms at Highgate Station.

Good ones.

The metal hooks for tying up boats set into the pavement of Surrey
Canal Road, revealing that the road is a former canal and the
pavements are unreconstructed tow-paths.

O! Never seen that on many East London visits.

The bridge over Waterloo Road which used to carry the connection from
the South East Lines across the Waterloo concourse.

I know that. There's not a great deal to see apart from the view from the
road. A good pub next to it though.

Deep level shelters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_deep-level_shelters

I didn't think there was much to see of them without a proper visit?

Escalator cavern at Westminster Station

Worth trying to interchange at, I agree.

The Underground entrances set into the corner of the Bank Of England,
and the air grilles hidden in the Greathead Statue in Cornhill. The
Greathead shield which forms part of the passageway to the W&C.
http://www.greathead.org/greathead2-o/JHG3.htm

Thames Tunnel and the Brunel Museum

Old station tiling at Arsenal station saying "Gillespie Road"

And similar at a number of stations.

Stations with lifts, e.g. Russell Square or Covent Garden.

The old train indicators at Earls Court District Line

They are unique now, aren't they? South Ken had similar I'm sure.

The big platforms at Euston and Angel

The tiny platforms at Clapham tube stations

More to look at. Thanks for all. I could add a number more from my travels.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

Also Farringdon. I couldn't see much at Mitre Bridge and that was when they
had to stop.

You might wait a very long time to see a pan going up or down at
Farringdon. The changeover now happens at City Thameslink. But Farringdon
remains an interesting station in transition (remember, in 1863 it was the
City terminus of the world's first underground railway, and will soon be
one of the world's busiest underground and interchange stations).

In article

rg, (Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

Also Farringdon. I couldn't see much at Mitre Bridge and that was
when they had to stop.

You might wait a very long time to see a pan going up or down at
Farringdon. The changeover now happens at City Thameslink.

When did that change? I thought I'd seen pan raising there since the
platform extensions. Last time I remember was the last day of the A stock,
September 2013?

But Farringdon remains an interesting station in transition (remember,
in 1863 it was the City terminus of the world's first underground
railway, and will soon be one of the world's busiest underground and
interchange stations).

It doesn't have much to chow of that history these days IME.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article

, (Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

Also Farringdon. I couldn't see much at Mitre Bridge and that was
when they had to stop.

You might wait a very long time to see a pan going up or down at
Farringdon. The changeover now happens at City Thameslink.

When did that change? I thought I'd seen pan raising there since the
platform extensions. Last time I remember was the last day of the A stock,
September 2013?

I think it was around six months ago.

But Farringdon remains an interesting station in transition (remember,
in 1863 it was the City terminus of the world's first underground
railway, and will soon be one of the world's busiest underground and
interchange stations).

It doesn't have much to chow of that history these days IME.

The old Met station exterior has been restored to some extent. It's
certainly a historic site, that's attempting to span the 19th, 20th and
21st centuries. In a few years, it'll be the key interchange between
Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton airports, using lines that obviously didn't
exist in 1863, as well as Padd, St P, Kings X, Liverpool St, and other
mainline stations.

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 00:50:40 +0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

wrote:
In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

Also Farringdon. I couldn't see much at Mitre Bridge and that was when they
had to stop.

You might wait a very long time to see a pan going up or down at
Farringdon. The changeover now happens at City Thameslink. But Farringdon
remains an interesting station in transition (remember, in 1863 it was the
City terminus of the world's first underground railway, and will soon be
one of the world's busiest underground and interchange stations).

I'd vote for Farringdon. You can take an extremely leisurely ride
through the core (with added mystery bonus stops) and marvel at the
idea that there will ever be 24 trains an hour through it.

I think the area is of interest, sarcasm aside. You've got the new
STP box, the old KX Thameslink platforms, the
explosion-in-an-architecture-factory Farringdon itself (itselves), the
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line, a steep climb up to the beautiful Blackfriars platforms and if
you get the right train, a good look at Borough Market and London
Bridge.

BTW I'm sure I've seen -- well, experienced in the form of a "reboot"
-- the pan go down at Farringdon s/b. This was on an Electrostar,
maybe they're different?

Richard.

Richard wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 00:50:40 +0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

wrote:
In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

The pantograph changeovers at Drayton Park and Mitre Bridge.

Also Farringdon. I couldn't see much at Mitre Bridge and that was when they
had to stop.

You might wait a very long time to see a pan going up or down at
Farringdon. The changeover now happens at City Thameslink. But Farringdon
remains an interesting station in transition (remember, in 1863 it was the
City terminus of the world's first underground railway, and will soon be
one of the world's busiest underground and interchange stations).

I'd vote for Farringdon. You can take an extremely leisurely ride
through the core (with added mystery bonus stops) and marvel at the
idea that there will ever be 24 trains an hour through it.

I think the area is of interest, sarcasm aside. You've got the new
STP box, the old KX Thameslink platforms, the
explosion-in-an-architecture-factory Farringdon itself (itselves), the
remains of all the stuff under Smithfield, City Thameslink with an
absolutely perfect 90s look (you can almost feel the shoulder pads)
including a blanked-off door that should have gone to the Jubilee
line, a steep climb up to the beautiful Blackfriars platforms and if
you get the right train, a good look at Borough Market and London
Bridge.

BTW I'm sure I've seen -- well, experienced in the form of a "reboot"
-- the pan go down at Farringdon s/b. This was on an Electrostar,
maybe they're different?

How recently? I thought they'd switched to City Thameslink a few months
ago. I'm pretty sure I've noticed it there on a 377.