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The Strand Underpass is of note, being converted from a former tram
subway and being tiny compared to pretty much any other road tunnel you
will ever go through. I don't know if buses still go through it in the
rush hour. Occasionally the northern end of the tram subway is open for
art events, allowing pedestrian access to the former platforms with old
roundels, but I doubt if the day of your trip will be such a day. The
tram tracks leading down from the Theobalds Road junction are of minor
interest. I believe that the small square archway in Holloway Road
almost opposite Witley Road is the only other place that you can still
see abandoned tram tracks, see
https://www.flickr.com/photos/warsaw...57626135089492
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On 03/11/2014 07:31, Basil Jet wrote:

The Strand Underpass is of note, being converted from a former tram
subway and being tiny compared to pretty much any other road tunnel you
will ever go through. I don't know if buses still go through it in the
rush hour. Occasionally the northern end of the tram subway is open for
art events, allowing pedestrian access to the former platforms with old
roundels, but I doubt if the day of your trip will be such a day. The
tram tracks leading down from the Theobalds Road junction are of minor
interest. I believe that the small square archway in Holloway Road
almost opposite Witley Road is the only other place that you can still
see abandoned tram tracks, see
https://www.flickr.com/photos/warsaw...57626135089492


Route 521 (nee Red Arrow) buses go through the Strand Underpass all day
long (weekdays only), not just at rush hour. There's no service on this
route at weekends & bank holidays. In particular when it was still a
bendy bus, it had a bit of a roller coaster feel to it (cheap thrills!).

Abandoned tram tracks live on in the Brixton Hill tram depot, used these
days as an outstation (if that's the right term?) for Brixton bus garage
just up the road:
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/brixton-hill-tram-depot.html

Also a tiny bit of old tram tracks in Ilford was exposed and 'put on
display' as part of streetscape redevelopments:
https://www.facebook.com/IlfordInPictures/posts/633198370074697
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The Strand Underpass is of note, being converted from a former tram
subway and being tiny compared to pretty much any other road tunnel
you will ever go through. I don't know if buses still go through it
in the rush hour. Occasionally the northern end of the tram subway is
open for art events, allowing pedestrian access to the former
platforms with old roundels, but I doubt if the day of your trip will
be such a day. The tram tracks leading down from the Theobalds Road
junction are of minor interest. I believe that the small square
archway in Holloway Road almost opposite Witley Road is the only
other place that you can still see abandoned tram tracks, see
https://www.flickr.com/photos/warsaw...set-7215762613
5089492


I agree a look at the tram subway ramp would be good. People won't have seen
conduit tram tracks before.

The Holloway Road photo is interesting but of limited interest as we have
bits of horse tramway still extant in Cambridge, including in the yard of
the Tram Depot pub. Those are fake even though in a genuine location but
genuine tracks still lie below the road surface outside the Senate House and
are exposed by road works from time to time before being covered over again.

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I agree a look at the tram subway ramp would be good. People won't
have seen conduit tram tracks before.


Stating the obvious again:

a. that's c.5 mins walk from the LT Museum (if only to know where it
is) and
b. offers Covent Garden Market as "site" other than transport (and
possible watering hole/loo stop)
c and if urinals are an attraction it's only a few minutes further
to Charing Cross Station for the Butterfly urinal, and possibly the
pop-up urinals outside Embankment Station although I doubt they'll be
out to play early enough for you.
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I agree a look at the tram subway ramp would be good. People won't have
seen conduit tram tracks before.


FWIW the tram subway is being used as a depot/RVP/whatever for Crossrail, so
I don't know what access will be like. You might get run over by diggers or
something.

Theo


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On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 01:48:49 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
In article ,
(Theo Markettos) wrote:

wrote:
I agree a look at the tram subway ramp would be good. People won't
have seen conduit tram tracks before.

FWIW the tram subway is being used as a depot/RVP/whatever for Crossrail,
so I don't know what access will be like. You might get run over by
diggers or something.


I was assuming we would only look through the gates on Southampton Row. It
was what I did as a kid.


Here's some pics I took on a visit to an art installation there five years
ago:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7622549498612/


I visited another "art" exhibition down there about 10 years ago. Very
interesting to walk around though the art students seemed a bit miffed that
most people there were more interested in the tram tunnel than the talent free
load of pretentious crap they were exhibiting.

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wrote:
In article ,
(Theo Markettos) wrote:

wrote:
I agree a look at the tram subway ramp would be good. People won't
have seen conduit tram tracks before.

FWIW the tram subway is being used as a depot/RVP/whatever for
Crossrail, so I don't know what access will be like. You might get
run over by diggers or something.

I was assuming we would only look through the gates on Southampton
Row. It was what I did as a kid.


Here's some pics I took on a visit to an art installation there five years
ago:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7622549498612/


Very interesting. I'm curious why there is no visible tram track in Holborn
tram station though.


The track has been removed in most of the tunnel, once you get to the
bottom of the ramp, but you can still see the power pickup slot in some
parts, though not in the station area.


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