One year they're telling us the bright yellow grab poles everywhere are for
the partially sighted, disability laws blah blah, the next they refurb the
northern line trains in dark blue. Never mind joined up thinking, is there
any thinking going on at all down there?

Having said that the refurb does look nice but I am wondering just how
necessary it was to spend millions on it when there was little wrong with
the old interior that a lick of paint couldn't have fixed.

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On 2014-12-26 19:06:56 +0000, d said:

One year they're telling us the bright yellow grab poles everywhere are for
the partially sighted, disability laws blah blah, the next they refurb the
northern line trains in dark blue. Never mind joined up thinking, is there
any thinking going on at all down there?

Having said that the refurb does look nice but I am wondering just how
necessary it was to spend millions on it when there was little wrong with
the old interior that a lick of paint couldn't have fixed.

I thought it a shame that the line colour-coding has been lost in
favour of a generic interior.

Neil
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 19:46:30 +0000
Neil Williams wrote:
On 2014-12-26 19:06:56 +0000, d said:

One year they're telling us the bright yellow grab poles everywhere are for
the partially sighted, disability laws blah blah, the next they refurb the
northern line trains in dark blue. Never mind joined up thinking, is there
any thinking going on at all down there?

Having said that the refurb does look nice but I am wondering just how
necessary it was to spend millions on it when there was little wrong with
the old interior that a lick of paint couldn't have fixed.

I thought it a shame that the line colour-coding has been lost in
favour of a generic interior.

Perhaps ultimately it can't be justified in terms of cost. Or perhaps they
have cascade plans in mind already for when the new trains for the central
and piccadilly come along. Either way, the interiors of the northern line
trains didn't look too shabby to me , I can't see how this refurb is
justified at the moment.

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I heard the Central Line trains had been refurbished, but I went in a
few recently and couldn't see any difference. Is the new interior
identical to the old one?

On 2014-12-27 14:58:49 +0000, Basil Jet said:

I heard the Central Line trains had been refurbished, but I went in a
few recently and couldn't see any difference. Is the new interior
identical to the old one?

The new seats are blue (standard, it seems), the old ones were...I
can't remember, but not blue. I think grey and red?

Neil
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On Saturday, December 27, 2014 5:43:14 PM UTC, Neil Williams wrote:
On 2014-12-27 14:58:49 +0000, Basil Jet said:

"The new seats are blue (standard, it seems), the old ones were...I
can't remember, but not blue. I think grey and red?"

I don't care what colour they are. The main difference is that the old seats were reasonably well padded, the new ones are little better than wooden benches. With less comfortable seats and lateral seating (so you can't readily see out of the window when above gound), closing ticket offices and public toilets, the tube is becoming less and less welcoming.

Peter

On 2014-12-29 08:31:18 +0000, peter said:

I don't care what colour they are. The main difference is that the old
seats were reasonably well padded, the new ones are little better than
wooden benches.

What, on the Central Line? They've just changed the covers, haven't they?

Neil
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On 29/12/2014 08:31, peter wrote:

On Saturday, December 27, 2014 5:43:14 PM UTC, Neil Williams wrote:
[...]
"The new seats are blue (standard, it seems), the old ones were...I
can't remember, but not blue. I think grey and red?"

I don't care what colour they are. The main difference is that the old seats were reasonably well padded, the new ones are little better than wooden benches. With less comfortable seats and lateral seating (so you can't readily see out of the window when above gound), closing ticket offices and public toilets, the tube is becoming less and less welcoming.


It's also carrying more and more passengers... record numbers in fact.