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On 2015\03\27 13:12, Recliner wrote:
Basil Jet wrote: On 2015\03\27 07:00, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: Why do both of the piers bend to face the sea? It almost looks as if they wanted to maximise pier length while simultaneously maximising ferry crossing distance. Presumably to be parallel to the flow of the river? Fair enough, although it doesn't explain why they are opposite each other and facing the same way, when placing the north pier by the abandoned railway station and bending up-river would give shorter routes to the south pier. Presumably they wanted the ferries to dock facing upstream? It's tidal. |
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In message , at 13:26:14 on Fri, 27 Mar
2015, Basil Jet remarked: Why do both of the piers bend to face the sea? It almost looks as if they wanted to maximise pier length while simultaneously maximising ferry crossing distance. Presumably to be parallel to the flow of the river? Fair enough, although it doesn't explain why they are opposite each other and facing the same way, when placing the north pier by the abandoned railway station and bending up-river would give shorter routes to the south pier. Presumably they wanted the ferries to dock facing upstream? It's tidal. From Teddington to the North Sea. -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:26:14 on Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Basil Jet remarked: Why do both of the piers bend to face the sea? It almost looks as if they wanted to maximise pier length while simultaneously maximising ferry crossing distance. Presumably to be parallel to the flow of the river? Fair enough, although it doesn't explain why they are opposite each other and facing the same way, when placing the north pier by the abandoned railway station and bending up-river would give shorter routes to the south pier. Presumably they wanted the ferries to dock facing upstream? It's tidal. From Teddington to the North Sea. And obviously at Woolwich. |
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Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 13:26:14 on Fri, 27 Mar 2015, Basil Jet remarked: Why do both of the piers bend to face the sea? It almost looks as if they wanted to maximise pier length while simultaneously maximising ferry crossing distance. Presumably to be parallel to the flow of the river? Fair enough, although it doesn't explain why they are opposite each other and facing the same way, when placing the north pier by the abandoned railway station and bending up-river would give shorter routes to the south pier. Presumably they wanted the ferries to dock facing upstream? It's tidal. From Teddington to the North Sea. And obviously at Woolwich. And the flow on the tideway is a good deal quicker on the flood than on the ebb. -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
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Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\03\27 13:12, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: On 2015\03\27 07:00, Recliner wrote: Basil Jet wrote: Why do both of the piers bend to face the sea? It almost looks as if they wanted to maximise pier length while simultaneously maximising ferry crossing distance. Presumably to be parallel to the flow of the river? Fair enough, although it doesn't explain why they are opposite each other and facing the same way, when placing the north pier by the abandoned railway station and bending up-river would give shorter routes to the south pier. Presumably they wanted the ferries to dock facing upstream? It's tidal. Yes, I know, but on average the water flows downstream, so the ferries will most often be powering towards the dock, rather than resisting the current. That makes them more controllable, and less likely to smash into the dock. Incidentally, I notice that, slightly downstream, there's an old, derelict pier just opposite the old North Woolwich station -- was this used by the ferries in the past? Or was it to serve passengers who arrived at the station? |
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Recliner wrote:
Incidentally, I notice that, slightly downstream, there's an old, derelict pier just opposite the old North Woolwich station -- was this used by the ferries in the past? Or was it to serve passengers who arrived at the station? It's marked as 'LNER pier' on this map: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n/north_woolwich/ adjacent to the 'Free Ferry' which goes from what looks to be the current pier. According to the text, the Great Eastern ran a North to South Woolwich ferry competing with the free ferry which closed in 1908, but the pier was then used for river steamers. Looks like the pier has been there since 1847. Theo |
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Theo Markettos wrote:
Looks like the pier has been there since 1847. Some pictures: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n...index122.shtml Theo |
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Theo Markettos wrote:
Theo Markettos wrote: Looks like the pier has been there since 1847. Some pictures: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n...index122.shtml Yes, I'd also stumbled on that site after posing my question. I went along there this morning and took some new pics, which I'll. upload tomorrow. I was the solitary foot passenger on the ferry I took to the south bank. The old station/museum looks a bit sad these days, with boarded-up windows. I wonder how long before it's replaced by another block of riverside posh flats? |
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On 27 Mar 2015 16:04:32 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
wrote: Theo Markettos wrote: Looks like the pier has been there since 1847. Some pictures: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n...index122.shtml And here's some more of mine, taken yesterday morning: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7651196745800/ |
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