Kat wrote:

In message , K
writes
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:27:08 +0000, Kat
wrote:



Yes... That's why you're getting unresolved journeys. Until Pre Pay was
enabled it didn't matter so much. Unfortunately the information for
passengers with season tickets has been less than clear....

The information is clear "...customers using prepay must touch in and
out..." But, I'm led to beleive on here, incorrect :-)

No, that information is absolutely correct; what seems to be confusing
some people is the idea that they don't need to do the same if they have
period tickets on Oyster. It is in *that* way that some of the publicity
has been misleading. Everyone with an Oyster (except Freedom Passes and
Staff Passes) now also have Pre Pay enabled whether they like it or not
and whether they use it or not.

Yeah, when I got the transcript from my Oyster it showed me an
unresolved journey from Canada Water [I travelled to New Cross Gate
and thence onwards by SouthCentral]. There is a reader at NXG, but I
believe it says "PrePay only". Am I supposed to scan there every time
I travel this route? Bizarre.

--
James Farrar |
London, SE13 |

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:29:09 +0000, James Farrar
wrote:

Yeah, when I got the transcript from my Oyster it showed me an
unresolved journey from Canada Water [I travelled to New Cross Gate
and thence onwards by SouthCentral]. There is a reader at NXG, but I
believe it says "PrePay only". Am I supposed to scan there every time
I travel this route? Bizarre.

More than likely...Personally, I just touch my Oyster to any validator I
encounter on my journey (and no, that doesn't mean I walk the entire
length of the Victoria Line platforms at Highbury, for example g).
That way, I figure my unresolved journeys will only be on WAGN, where I
touch in at Liverpool Street (or use the validator at Seven Sisters) and
there's no gate/validator at Edmonton Green or Silver Street.

Cya,

Barry

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In message , Anon
writes

I do not have the answer because I keep forgetting to check up but error 36
is new and full details are in the Traffic Circular.


I've been on a course; now I need to catch up with Oyster changes.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.

In message , Barry Salter
writes
That way, I figure my unresolved journeys will only be on WAGN, where I
touch in at Liverpool Street (or use the validator at Seven Sisters)
and there's no gate/validator at Edmonton Green or Silver Street.

Now I'm confused again. I thought Oyster was only for use on the Tube &
DLR? At least, that's what the adverts infer.....

--
Bob Adams

In ,
Bob Adams typed:

Now I'm confused again. I thought Oyster was only for use on the Tube
& DLR? At least, that's what the adverts infer.....

It is Oyster PrePay that is only available on the Tube and DLR.





Bob

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:28:38 -0000, "Bob Wood"
wrote:

In ,
Bob Adams typed:

Now I'm confused again. I thought Oyster was only for use on the Tube
& DLR? At least, that's what the adverts infer.....

It is Oyster PrePay that is only available on the Tube and DLR.




And various sections of National Rail, mostly those parallel to tibe
services.

"Bob Wood" wrote in message ...
In ,
Bob Adams typed:

Now I'm confused again. I thought Oyster was only for use on the Tube
& DLR? At least, that's what the adverts infer.....

It is Oyster PrePay that is only available on the Tube and DLR.

Bob

And the buses too - someone said that their Pre-Pay Oyster worked on a bus.

Brad

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:37:05 +0000, Barry Salter
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:29:09 +0000, James Farrar
wrote:

Yeah, when I got the transcript from my Oyster it showed me an
unresolved journey from Canada Water [I travelled to New Cross Gate
and thence onwards by SouthCentral]. There is a reader at NXG, but I
believe it says "PrePay only". Am I supposed to scan there every time
I travel this route? Bizarre.

More than likely...Personally, I just touch my Oyster to any validator I
encounter on my journey (and no, that doesn't mean I walk the entire
length of the Victoria Line platforms at Highbury, for example g).
That way, I figure my unresolved journeys will only be on WAGN, where I
touch in at Liverpool Street (or use the validator at Seven Sisters) and
there's no gate/validator at Edmonton Green or Silver Street.

At both Highbury (for interchange between Victoria Line and national
rail) and Finsbury Park, the Oyster publicity implies that only
pre-pay users need to touch their card, and also the number and
position of validators is consistent with only a minority of
passengers needing to touch their cards. My impression at Finsbury
Park is that perhaps one passenger in ten touches their card on entry
or exit, whereas probably 50% now have Oysters.

A quick check of my Oyster card suggests that journeys *to* Finsbury
Park come up as unresolved, but journeys *from* don't. I don't swipe
at Finsbury Park and I don't (yet) have any pre-pay balance on the
card

Martin

But how do you touch in and out at stations without any Oyster readers?

My normal commute (with a zone 1,2,3 monthly on Oyster) is from West
Ealing to Paddington, neither of which seem to have readers. I sometimes
travel from Ealing Broadway (which does have readers) to Paddington.

So shouldn't I regularly be having problems with unresolved journeys?
Perhaps they are never noticed as I always renew online.


Kat wrote:
In message , K
writes

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:27:08 +0000, Kat
wrote:



Yes... That's why you're getting unresolved journeys. Until Pre Pay was
enabled it didn't matter so much. Unfortunately the information for
passengers with season tickets has been less than clear....


The information is clear "...customers using prepay must touch in and
out..." But, I'm led to beleive on here, incorrect :-)


No, that information is absolutely correct; what seems to be confusing
some people is the idea that they don't need to do the same if they have
period tickets on Oyster. It is in *that* way that some of the publicity
has been misleading. Everyone with an Oyster (except Freedom Passes and
Staff Passes) now also have Pre Pay enabled whether they like it or not
and whether they use it or not.

On 21 Feb 2004 12:27:20 -0800, (TheOneKEA) wrote:

"Bob Wood" wrote in message ...
In ,
Bob Adams typed:

Now I'm confused again. I thought Oyster was only for use on the Tube
& DLR? At least, that's what the adverts infer.....

It is Oyster PrePay that is only available on the Tube and DLR.

And the buses too - someone said that their Pre-Pay Oyster worked on a bus.

Oyster Pre-Pay is not officially valid for travel on buses yet. Some
routes are charging the correct 70p fare, but others aren't, with 1p
and 55p being recently spotted variations.

Admitedly I have used my Oyster Pre-Pay on buses, and am generally
charged 70p so am not too worried. I wonder what a RPI would do if
someone was found with a Pre-Pay fare debited at less then than 70p?


Cheers,

Jason.