Just had a consultation from TFL for a road scheme in Kingsland Road
near the south Dalston Junction entrance and bus stop/road. It will
involve blocking our road off (yippee) but I see that they want to
remove the traffic islands so that buses can turn left out of the DJ
bus stop. I can see no info about plans for services that will use this
- is it just a future proof measure at this stage? The only bus that
uses the rather large bus loop and stop at present is the single deck
488 that turns right and goes to Bromley by Bow. I guess it could just
be to turn some services here.

See https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/roa...kingsland-road

E.

On 07/06/2015 11:30, eastender wrote:
Just had a consultation from TFL for a road scheme in Kingsland Road
near the south Dalston Junction entrance and bus stop/road. It will
involve blocking our road off (yippee) but I see that they want to
remove the traffic islands so that buses can turn left out of the DJ bus
stop. I can see no info about plans for services that will use this - is
it just a future proof measure at this stage? The only bus that uses the
rather large bus loop and stop at present is the single deck 488 that
turns right and goes to Bromley by Bow. I guess it could just be to turn
some services here.

See https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/roa...kingsland-road

E.

They talk about closure of Tottenham Road and Stamford Road to vehicular
traffic - what about those who live on those roads and have e.g. car
parking there? Or is it implied there will still be access just not
to/from Kingsland Road?

On 2015-06-07 11:03:10 +0000, Someone Somewhere said:

On 07/06/2015 11:30, eastender wrote:
Just had a consultation from TFL for a road scheme in Kingsland Road
near the south Dalston Junction entrance and bus stop/road. It will
involve blocking our road off (yippee) but I see that they want to
remove the traffic islands so that buses can turn left out of the DJ bus
stop. I can see no info about plans for services that will use this - is
it just a future proof measure at this stage? The only bus that uses the
rather large bus loop and stop at present is the single deck 488 that
turns right and goes to Bromley by Bow. I guess it could just be to turn
some services here.

See https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/roa...kingsland-road

E.

They talk about closure of Tottenham Road and Stamford Road to
vehicular traffic - what about those who live on those roads and have
e.g. car parking there? Or is it implied there will still be access
just not to/from Kingsland Road?

Those roads have access south and west - Stamford Road, where we live,
has both south access and a west bound road, near the top that's
hopefully going to be blocked. TFL closed the right turn from Kingsland
into these roads a while ago.

E.

On 2015-06-07 13:54:59 +0000, Paul Corfield said:

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:30:37 +0100, eastender wrote:

Just had a consultation from TFL for a road scheme in Kingsland Road
near the south Dalston Junction entrance and bus stop/road. It will
involve blocking our road off (yippee) but I see that they want to
remove the traffic islands so that buses can turn left out of the DJ
bus stop. I can see no info about plans for services that will use this
- is it just a future proof measure at this stage? The only bus that
uses the rather large bus loop and stop at present is the single deck
488 that turns right and goes to Bromley by Bow. I guess it could just
be to turn some services here.

See https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/roa...kingsland-road

Yes this has been spotted elsewhere where we've had some nice wild
speculation

Where elsewhere?

Richmond Road is perfectly capable of handling a bus
service as it was used as a diversion during bridge reconstruction at
Dalston (as you'll know).

Indeed - there's still a bus stop there. But some of the roads are
quite narrow and even small buses can get clogged - a good example is
the 394 that runs further east on Richmond Road where there are lots of
parked cars.

there is a bit more money sloshing around for bus improvements as
TfL have increased the budget and are predicting an increase in bus
KMs over the next few years. Also there is money notionally spare from
the D6 given it was curtailed and quite a few buses were made spare
from the route.

What's a KM? Kilometre? I expect there is some pressure also to prove
that the bus station at DJ can repay some of its investment.

E.

On 07/06/2015 18:49, eastender wrote:

On 2015-06-07 13:54:59 +0000, Paul Corfield said:
[...]
there is a bit more money sloshing around for bus improvements as
TfL have increased the budget and are predicting an increase in bus
KMs over the next few years. Also there is money notionally spare from
the D6 given it was curtailed and quite a few buses were made spare
from the route.


What's a KM? Kilometre? I expect there is some pressure also to prove
that the bus station at DJ can repay some of its investment.


Yes - bus kilometres.

Was the bus station funded by development money? I guess that prob just
contributed to the whole station project.

eastender - you sent the above message with HTML formatting - convention
round these archaic parts is that postings to usenet are in plain text,
otherwise various stuff can happen, like quoting getting all messed up
in subsequent replies. (Trying my best not to sound like some sort of
old school internet gendarme!)

On 2015-06-07 20:16:58 +0000, Mizter T said:

On 07/06/2015 18:49, eastender wrote:

On 2015-06-07 13:54:59 +0000, Paul Corfield said:
[...]
there is a bit more money sloshing around for bus improvements as
TfL have increased the budget and are predicting an increase in bus
KMs over the next few years. Also there is money notionally spare from
the D6 given it was curtailed and quite a few buses were made spare
from the route.


What's a KM? Kilometre? I expect there is some pressure also to prove
that the bus station at DJ can repay some of its investment.


Yes - bus kilometres.

Was the bus station funded by development money? I guess that prob just
contributed to the whole station project.

There was a lot of fuss at the time over a £40 million concrete 'slab'
that only has one bus service.


eastender - you sent the above message with HTML formatting -
convention round these archaic parts is that postings to usenet are in
plain text, otherwise various stuff can happen, like quoting getting
all messed up in subsequent replies. (Trying my best not to sound like
some sort of old school internet gendarme!)

I've been using Usenet since the early 1980s so know about this - I'm
currently using Unison on a Mac - I'll look at the settings but I think
most of my posts are in plain text but sometimes it goes awry.

E.