So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union, who'd
have thought it.

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Spud

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC), y wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union, who'd
have thought it.

The ASLEF press release at
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/...ction_on_tube/
reads slightly differently:

"ASLEF members on London Underground have voted overwhelmingly for strike
action in a dispute over the company’s decision to try to force through,
without negotiation, new rosters which would mean Tube drivers will have
to work an unlimited number of weekend and night shifts for no extra
pay."

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:46:10 +0100
David Walters wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC), y
wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union, who'd
have thought it.

The ASLEF press release at
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/...trike_action_o
_tube/
reads slightly differently:

"ASLEF members on London Underground have voted overwhelmingly for strike
action in a dispute over the company’s decision to try to force through,
without negotiation, new rosters which would mean Tube drivers will have
to work an unlimited number of weekend and night shifts for no extra
pay."

Well if that is true - and I doubt it - the job contract apparently allows it
so tough. They should have read the small print before they signed. If they
didn't like the terms of employement they can always go elsewhere and I'm sure
some east europeans will be only too happy to do the job.

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Spud

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:47:40 +0000 (UTC), y wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:46:10 +0100
David Walters wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC), y
wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union, who'd
have thought it.

The ASLEF press release at
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/...trike_action_o
_tube/
reads slightly differently:

"ASLEF members on London Underground have voted overwhelmingly for strike
action in a dispute over the company’s decision to try to force through,
without negotiation, new rosters which would mean Tube drivers will have
to work an unlimited number of weekend and night shifts for no extra
pay."

Well if that is true - and I doubt it - the job contract apparently allows it
so tough. They should have read the small print before they signed.

My understanding is the job contract doesn't allow it. But the same
contract also doesn't mandate a payrise. There is a new contract on offer
which requires more weekend and night shifts in exchange for a payrise. I
assume ASLEF think their members should get a cost of living increase
regardless.

David Walters wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:47:40 +0000 (UTC), y wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:46:10 +0100
David Walters wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC), y
wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union, who'd
have thought it.

The ASLEF press release at
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/...trike_action_o
_tube/
reads slightly differently:

"ASLEF members on London Underground have voted overwhelmingly for strike
action in a dispute over the company’s decision to try to force through,
without negotiation, new rosters which would mean Tube drivers will have
to work an unlimited number of weekend and night shifts for no extra
pay."

Well if that is true - and I doubt it - the job contract apparently allows it
so tough. They should have read the small print before they signed.

My understanding is the job contract doesn't allow it. But the same
contract also doesn't mandate a payrise. There is a new contract on offer
which requires more weekend and night shifts in exchange for a payrise. I
assume ASLEF think their members should get a cost of living increase
regardless.

The rate of inflation is currently very close to zero, so a cost of living
increase would be almost zero.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:06:08 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
The rate of inflation is currently very close to zero, so a cost of living
increase would be almost zero.

When did reality ever intersect with a unions demands?

--
Spud

On 18/06/2015 13:35, y wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965


Of course most Tube strikes don't actually happen.

Mizter T wrote:
On 18/06/2015 13:35, y wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965


Of course most Tube strikes don't actually happen.

From "Zen and the Art of TfL Trade Unionism"?
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

"David Walters" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC), y
wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to
force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union,
who'd
have thought it.

The ASLEF press release at
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/...ction_on_tube/
reads slightly differently:

"ASLEF members on London Underground have voted overwhelmingly for strike
action in a dispute over the company’s decision to try to force through,
without negotiation, new rosters which would mean Tube drivers will have
to work an unlimited number of weekend and night shifts for no extra
pay."

presumably that worded to mean:

work an unlimited number of weekend/night shifts without being paid for
them.

when the realty is:

work an unlimited number of weekend/nights instead of the same number of
weekday shifts

what's the problem here. There isn't an unlimited number of weekend days
in a year and if you don't share them out "fairly" there will be no-one
working the weekday shifts

tim

"tim....." wrote:
"David Walters" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC), y wrote:
So the overpaid button pushers will be out again on the 8th of July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33180965

"Aslef, which represents around 70% of drivers, said LU was trying to force
through new rosters which would mean drivers worked unlimited hours "

Really? Thats unlikely because it would be illegal. FUD from a union, who'd
have thought it.

The ASLEF press release at
http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/...ction_on_tube/
reads slightly differently:

"ASLEF members on London Underground have voted overwhelmingly for strike
action in a dispute over the company’s decision to try to force through,
without negotiation, new rosters which would mean Tube drivers will have
to work an unlimited number of weekend and night shifts for no extra
pay."

presumably that worded to mean:

work an unlimited number of weekend/night shifts without being paid for them.

when the realty is:

work an unlimited number of weekend/nights instead of the same number of weekday shifts

what's the problem here. There isn't an unlimited number of weekend
days in a year and if you don't share them out "fairly" there will be
no-one working the weekday shifts

I wonder, do they get paid more for "unsocial hours" shifts, or are they on
fixed salaries for fixed hours, which can include a proportion of shifts at
any time?