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On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 16:34:56 +0000 (UTC), Recliner
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gene...-striking.html


"No one is fooled by the mayor's spin that this is primarily about
pay. There is big concern that in stations outside central London,
night tubes will be stopping at stations that will have no minimum
staffing levels - which could mean just one member of staff dealing
with the public coming home after a late night out. This is a safety
nightmare and clearly not good for these staff or the public. […]"


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On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:54:23 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 16:34:56 +0000 (UTC), Recliner
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gene...-striking.html


"No one is fooled by the mayor's spin that this is primarily about
pay. There is big concern that in stations outside central London,
night tubes will be stopping at stations that will have no minimum
staffing levels - which could mean just one member of staff dealing
with the public coming home after a late night out. This is a safety
nightmare and clearly not good for these staff or the public. […]"


http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/tube_...ayor_must_talk


How is that any different to what already happens when the last tubes
arrive at suburban stations at around 1am?

And what's the betting that the demands resolve, as they usually do,
into more money?
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On 2015\07\09 21:03, Paul Cummins wrote:
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How is that any different to what already happens when the last
tubes arrive at suburban stations at around 1am?


Or even when main line trains arrive at unmanned stations at any point.


I don't see how station staff can be assaulted at an unmanned station.
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:03:22 +0100
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:54:23 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 16:34:56 +0000 (UTC), Recliner
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gene...blog/11725850/

ow-well-off-are-Londons-tube-drivers-and-why-are-they-striking.html

"No one is fooled by the mayor's spin that this is primarily about
pay. There is big concern that in stations outside central London,
night tubes will be stopping at stations that will have no minimum
staffing levels - which could mean just one member of staff dealing
with the public coming home after a late night out. This is a safety
nightmare and clearly not good for these staff or the public. […]"


http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/tube_...ayor_must_talk


How is that any different to what already happens when the last tubes
arrive at suburban stations at around 1am?


Or on the DLR.

LU won't understaff the stations because they know damn sure people will
probably just jump over the barriers if they think no one is watching.

And what's the betting that the demands resolve, as they usually do,
into more money?


Guaranteed.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gene...blog/11725850/
ow-well-off-are-Londons-tube-drivers-and-why-are-they-striking.html

"No one is fooled by the mayor's spin that this is primarily about
pay. There is big concern that in stations outside central London,
night tubes will be stopping at stations that will have no minimum
staffing levels - which could mean just one member of staff
dealing with the public coming home after a late night out. This
is a safety nightmare and clearly not good for these staff or the
public. […]"


http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/tube_...ayor_must_talk


How is that any different to what already happens when the last
tubes arrive at suburban stations at around 1am?


Or on the DLR.

LU won't understaff the stations because they know damn sure people
will probably just jump over the barriers if they think no one is
watching.


If the station was unstaffed the barriers would be open anyway.

Peter Smyth
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On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 04:54:23PM +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:

" night tubes will be stopping at stations that will have no minimum
staffing levels - which could mean just one member of staff ... "


At least the union has stopped telling lies about unstaffed stations.
Progress!

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On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:36:23 PM UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
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At least with no trains the drivers are unable to assault passengers like they do every day by closing the doors on those still trying to get on or off. I'm not talking about the idiot passengers who try and get on / off trains at the very last minute. How many times have I seen a woman with a kid in a pushchair sandwiched between two closing doors? Quite a few. How many times have passengers been killed due to trapped clothing in the doors - quite a few. Remember the old lady killed as she was dragged down the platform at Hounslow a few years ago. And there have been other instances. Numerous complaints to management about drivers not checking the CCTV monitors, closing the doors, and moving off without notice, are always replied to in the vein of 'we have no problems with the issues you mention.' But then with drivers getting 60 grand and supervisors likely less than half that the drivers are well out of control. Their strike is one solely based upon greed. And of course its summer. SB
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