Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left
his Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he
have to buy a one day card to use the bus?

E.

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:51:15 AM UTC, eastender wrote:
Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left
his Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he
have to buy a one day card to use the bus?

E.

He can use a contactless bank card to pay for a single fare.

On 04/12/2015 09:51, eastender wrote:
Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left his
Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he have
to buy a one day card to use the bus?

E.

Yes - One Day Bus & Tram Pass at £5 (unless he's got a contactless
debit/credit card).

FWIW, a single paper ticket for travel on the Tube & LO from Euston to
Dalston (Kingsland or Junction), which I understand is in your vicinity,
would cost £4.80.

I recall Leon Daniels, TfL's MD of Surface Transport (which includes
buses), kinda dismissing the issue of not having an Oyster card on you
as a 'wrong trousers problem' (in a personal blog response to the
consultation on buses going cash free). Problem is, in real life
passengers aren't perfect and will occasionally end up out and about
'wearing the wrong trousers'. Anyway, it's how it is.

On 2015-12-04 10:30:18 +0000, Mizter T said:

On 04/12/2015 09:51, eastender wrote:
Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left his
Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he have
to buy a one day card to use the bus?

E.

Yes - One Day Bus & Tram Pass at £5 (unless he's got a contactless
debit/credit card).

FWIW, a single paper ticket for travel on the Tube & LO from Euston to
Dalston (Kingsland or Junction), which I understand is in your
vicinity, would cost £4.80.

I recall Leon Daniels, TfL's MD of Surface Transport (which includes
buses), kinda dismissing the issue of not having an Oyster card on you
as a 'wrong trousers problem' (in a personal blog response to the
consultation on buses going cash free). Problem is, in real life
passengers aren't perfect and will occasionally end up out and about
'wearing the wrong trousers'. Anyway, it's how it is.

Yes he's got to get to Dalston. He's asked me to pick him up from
Euston at 11pm but I'm going to Pig's Ear beer festival so will be in
no state to drive.

He has just got a new debit card (HSBC) so hopefully that will be
contactless but I don't know if they issue them to students.

E.

On 04/12/2015 09:57, Piatkow wrote:
On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:51:15 AM UTC, eastender wrote:
Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left
his Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he
have to buy a one day card to use the bus?

E.

He can use a contactless bank card to pay for a single fare.

I thought that when contactless bank cards were introduced for small
transactions in shops one of the safeguards was that the first time you
used one you would be required to enter your pin on the associated pin
pad, just so that if someone stole your card and you had not enabled it
in this way it could not be used to empty your account. But buses and
tube gatelines don't have a pin-pad - so does this mean (a) that you no
longer have to enable them, so that all contactless cards are instantly
valuable to a thief who wants to travel around London, or (b) you do
have to use them somewhere else first such as in a shop where a pin-pad
is provided? I've searched the TfL website without being able to find
anything on this topic.

(I'm an Oyster user but have a National Rail discount loaded on mine, so
use of contactless cards would cost more, but it would be nice to know
whether in an emergency I could use it or not).

--
Clive Page

In message , at 14:35:30 on Fri, 4 Dec
2015, Clive Page remarked:
On 04/12/2015 09:57, Piatkow wrote:
On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:51:15 AM UTC, eastender wrote:
Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left
his Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he
have to buy a one day card to use the bus?

He can use a contactless bank card to pay for a single fare.

I thought that when contactless bank cards were introduced for small
transactions in shops one of the safeguards was that the first time you
used one you would be required to enter your pin on the associated pin
pad, just so that if someone stole your card and you had not enabled it
in this way it could not be used to empty your account.

I dimly recall that too, but have never encountered it myself in the
field (I have several cards on the go).

But buses and tube gatelines don't have a pin-pad - so does this mean
(a) that you no longer have to enable them, so that all contactless
cards are instantly valuable to a thief who wants to travel around
London, or (b) you do have to use them somewhere else first such as in
a shop where a pin-pad is provided? I've searched the TfL website
without being able to find anything on this topic.

At least two of my cards have only *ever* been used as contactless on
TfL (I got them to play with), and they both worked fine first time.

Another card has never been used *contactless* other than on TfL. Again,
it worked first time.

(I'm an Oyster user but have a National Rail discount loaded on mine,
so use of contactless cards would cost more, but it would be nice to
know whether in an emergency I could use it or not).

--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 14:51:45 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:35:30 on Fri, 4 Dec
2015, Clive Page remarked:
But buses and tube gatelines don't have a pin-pad - so does this mean
(a) that you no longer have to enable them, so that all contactless
cards are instantly valuable to a thief who wants to travel around
London, or (b) you do have to use them somewhere else first such as in
a shop where a pin-pad is provided? I've searched the TfL website
without being able to find anything on this topic.

At least two of my cards have only *ever* been used as contactless on
TfL (I got them to play with), and they both worked fine first time.

Good to know TfL are completely ignoring basic banking security. Makes me
glad I've disabled all my contactless cards.

--
Spud

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 14:35:30 on Fri, 4 Dec
2015, Clive Page remarked:
On 04/12/2015 09:57, Piatkow wrote:
On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:51:15 AM UTC, eastender wrote:
Is it no longer possible to buy a single bus ticket? My son has left
his Oyster card somewhere and is coming into Euston tonight - does he
have to buy a one day card to use the bus?

He can use a contactless bank card to pay for a single fare.

I thought that when contactless bank cards were introduced for small
transactions in shops one of the safeguards was that the first time you
used one you would be required to enter your pin on the associated pin
pad, just so that if someone stole your card and you had not enabled it in
this way it could not be used to empty your account.

I dimly recall that too, but have never encountered it myself in the field
(I have several cards on the go).

But buses and tube gatelines don't have a pin-pad - so does this mean (a)
that you no longer have to enable them, so that all contactless cards are
instantly valuable to a thief who wants to travel around London, or (b)
you do have to use them somewhere else first such as in a shop where a
pin-pad is provided? I've searched the TfL website without being able to
find anything on this topic.

At least two of my cards have only *ever* been used as contactless on TfL
(I got them to play with), and they both worked fine first time.

I have just receive my new card and I had to put it in any ATM (presumably
to confirm my PIN) before it would work contactlessly.

I guess that in this respect, TfL use is the same as paying for my shopping
in Lidl

tim

In message , at 14:58:38 on Fri, 4 Dec
2015, d remarked:
But buses and tube gatelines don't have a pin-pad - so does this mean
(a) that you no longer have to enable them, so that all contactless
cards are instantly valuable to a thief who wants to travel around
London, or (b) you do have to use them somewhere else first such as in
a shop where a pin-pad is provided? I've searched the TfL website
without being able to find anything on this topic.

At least two of my cards have only *ever* been used as contactless on
TfL (I got them to play with), and they both worked fine first time.

Good to know TfL are completely ignoring basic banking security. Makes me
glad I've disabled all my contactless cards.

They'll block the card it it's reported lost/stolen, and you should be
able to get your money back. It's not as if the perp's run off with a
free burger or anything, so I expect they are happy to take the risk.
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 15:35:21 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:58:38 on Fri, 4 Dec
2015, d remarked:
Good to know TfL are completely ignoring basic banking security. Makes me
glad I've disabled all my contactless cards.

They'll block the card it it's reported lost/stolen, and you should be
able to get your money back. It's not as if the perp's run off with a

Eventually. It all costs time and money in phonecalls which are invariably
0845 numbers and the inconvenience of waiting for a replacement card.

free burger or anything, so I expect they are happy to take the risk.

I'm sure they are however if the card has now been used for the first time
for TfL it can probably be used again in a shop without the first time PIN.
Thats not their problem though is it.

--
Spud