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January 1st 16, 11:05 AM
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By London's Northern Line to Battersea
On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 11:32:56 +0000, Robert
wrote: On 2016-01-01 10:59:02 +0000, e27002 aurora said: On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:37:11 -0600, wrote: In fact the creation of new names in modern times has been pretty unimaginative. Look at those created in my lifetime, Victoria, Jubilee (originally Fleet), Hammersmith & City and Crossrail. I think that Fleet would have been a better name, especially as there have been 2 more jubilees since Horace Cutler decided on the name. Victoria is a fine name for a fine piece of infrastructure. It is of the few good things to come out of the 1960s. Apart from the Beatles, Alexis Korner and the Rolling Stones... One is not sure encouraging indolence, rebellion, and the use of health harming substances was an altogether good thing. Better, IMHO, if the New Elizabethan period was known for the music Ralph Vaughan Williams. The name Jubilee, as I am sure you are aware, long predates its British utilization. Better than name the route after a sewer. The word 'Fleet' (also written as 'Fleth') in old lower German means a small watercourse running into a larger river - it has nothing whatsoever to do with sewers. The word is still used for streams running into the Weser and Elbe in northern Germany and derives from 'fließen' - meaning 'to flow'. The word was brought to England by peoples originating from, and trading with, their homelands in that part of the world. And its etymology shows that it derives from yet older lndo-European languages - so probably just as old as 'Jubilee'. Understood Robert. However, in London, the stream that starts @ the pools of Hampstead and Highgate and flows to the Thames @ Blackfriars is best remembered as the Fleet Sewer. Ione assumes it is now clean again. Hammersmith and City is an artificial renaming of part of the Metropolitan, and is very awkward. Er, the Hammersmith & City Railway (H&CR) was financed jointly by the GWR and the Metropolitain Railway and opened in 1864. There is nothing artificial about it. Point taken. When I lived in London 40 years back, the H&C was simply part of the Met. If TfL want to maintain the GWR connection how about helping the longsuffering passengers and restoring the cross-platform interchange at Paddington. Before the issue of crossing the 3rd and 4th rail tracks comes up, that could be avoided with a long single track from Royal Oak to platform 16. Who knows what the completed Crossrail will be called. Meanwhile Crossrail is not bad. Crossrail. |
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