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In article , (Mizter T) wrote: On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Mizter T writes Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is? I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with me!) It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting dated and not much loved by the depots these days. That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too - lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride. I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of the S8s which I last used. Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing one. |
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On 13.01.16 8:55, Recliner wrote: wrote: In article , (Mizter T) wrote: On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Mizter T writes Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is? I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with me!) It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting dated and not much loved by the depots these days. That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too - lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride. I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of the S8s which I last used. Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing one. Are there any external differences at this point between an S7 and S8? Or does one need to always look at the seating arrangement/ Earlier, one could tell the difference by the fact that the third number on an S7 railcar's number was always 3. Now however, that no longer appears to be the case. I don't know if there are still any S7+1s on the Met (I've not seen any recently). If not, then the line tells you whether it'll be an S7 or S8. I'm not aware of any other ways of telling from the external appearance. |
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On 13.01.16 8:55, Recliner wrote: wrote: In article , (Mizter T) wrote: On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Mizter T writes Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is? I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with me!) It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting dated and not much loved by the depots these days. That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too - lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride. I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of the S8s which I last used. Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing one. Are there any external differences at this point between an S7 and S8? Or does one need to always look at the seating arrangement/ Earlier, one could tell the difference by the fact that the third number on an S7 railcar's number was always 3. Now however, that no longer appears to be the case. S8 stock is numbered as half sets 001-116. S7 is numbered as half sets 301-566. In other words, S8 cars are numbered 21001-21116, 22001-22116, 23001-23116*, 24001-24116 while S7 cars are 21301-21566, 22301-22566, 23302-23566* (even numbers only) and 24301-24566. * De-icing cars in some units are numbered 25xxx instead of 23xxx (even nos only). This appears to cover 25002-25056 and 25302-25386 (evens). -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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Recliner wrote on 13 Jan 2016 at 08:55 ...
wrote: In article , (Mizter T) wrote: On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Mizter T writes Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is? I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with me!) It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting dated and not much loved by the depots these days. That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too - lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride. I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of the S8s which I last used. Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing one. To my surprise, having always tried to get a transverse seat on D stock, I find that the lack of transverse seats on S7 doesn't actually bother me, probably because S7 is better in all other respects. It helps (when not in tunnel) that the windows are large, so much better than the Overground's class 378 from the same manufacturer. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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Richard J. wrote:
Recliner wrote on 13 Jan 2016 at 08:55 ... wrote: In article , (Mizter T) wrote: On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Mizter T writes Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is? I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with me!) It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting dated and not much loved by the depots these days. That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too - lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride. I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of the S8s which I last used. Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing one. To my surprise, having always tried to get a transverse seat on D stock, I find that the lack of transverse seats on S7 doesn't actually bother me, probably because S7 is better in all other respects. It helps (when not in tunnel) that the windows are large, so much better than the Overground's class 378 from the same manufacturer. Yes, it's surprising how different those trains are, considering they were built at the same time in the same factory. Even the seats are a lot more comfortable in the S stock than the 378s. Some of the latter's windows are small because of the external displays, aren't they? |
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