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Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is?

I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although
it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with
me!)

It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting
dated and not much loved by the depots these days.

That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too
- lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride.

I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of
the S8s which I last used.


Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing
one.

Are there any external differences at this point between an S7 and S8?
Or does one need to always look at the seating arrangement/

Earlier, one could tell the difference by the fact that the third number
on an S7 railcar's number was always 3. Now however, that no longer
appears to be the case.



I don't know if there are still any S7+1s on the Met (I've not seen any
recently). If not, then the line tells you whether it'll be an S7 or S8.
I'm not aware of any other ways of telling from the external appearance.

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On 13.01.16 8:55, Recliner wrote:
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On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:

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Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is?

I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com
(although it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes
down well with me!)

It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are
getting dated and not much loved by the depots these days.

That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too
- lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride.

I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One
advantage of the S8s which I last used.


Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear
facing one.

Are there any external differences at this point between an S7 and
S8? Or does one need to always look at the seating arrangement/

Earlier, one could tell the difference by the fact that the third
number on an S7 railcar's number was always 3. Now however, that no
longer appears to be the case.


S8 stock is numbered as half sets 001-116. S7 is numbered as half sets
301-566.

In other words, S8 cars are numbered 21001-21116, 22001-22116, 23001-23116*,
24001-24116 while S7 cars are 21301-21566, 22301-22566, 23302-23566* (even
numbers only) and 24301-24566.

* De-icing cars in some units are numbered 25xxx instead of 23xxx (even nos
only). This appears to cover 25002-25056 and 25302-25386 (evens).

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Richard J. wrote:
Recliner wrote on 13 Jan 2016 at 08:55 ...
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In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 12/01/2016 20:51, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:

In message , Mizter T
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Do you like the S-stock - from a driver's POV that is?

I love them. Comfortable, good driving position, cab air-com (although
it's a bit noisy) and hi-tech controls (which always goes down well with
me!)

It's almost disappointing when a D stock turns up as they are getting
dated and not much loved by the depots these days.

That's great to hear! I like them from a passenger's perspective too
- lots of space, big wide doors, smooth ride.

I agree except for the lack of transverse seats on the S7s. One advantage of
the S8s which I last used.


Yes, I always try and grabs transverse seat on an S8, even a rear facing
one.


To my surprise, having always tried to get a transverse seat on D stock,
I find that the lack of transverse seats on S7 doesn't actually bother
me, probably because S7 is better in all other respects. It helps (when
not in tunnel) that the windows are large, so much better than the
Overground's class 378 from the same manufacturer.


Yes, it's surprising how different those trains are, considering they were
built at the same time in the same factory. Even the seats are a lot more
comfortable in the S stock than the 378s. Some of the latter's windows are
small because of the external displays, aren't they?

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