apart from a few class 465s

Without going off-topic, I notice only the Eversholt-owned 465/0 and 465/1 have had their original GTO drives replaced by new Hitachi IGBT drives.

The Angel-owned 465/2, 465/9 and 466 retain their original GTO drives.

It's strange when you're at a Southeastern station and hear a new IGBT unit coupled to an older GTO unit depart in multiple.

Do Angel have any plans to upgrade their Networker fleet to Hitachi IGBTs?

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Schnuzelbug

In article ,
(Christopher Jolly) wrote:

apart from a few class 465s

Without going off-topic, I notice only the Eversholt-owned 465/0 and
465/1 have had their original GTO drives replaced by new Hitachi IGBT
drives.

The Angel-owned 465/2, 465/9 and 466 retain their original GTO drives.

It's strange when you're at a Southeastern station and hear a new
IGBT unit coupled to an older GTO unit depart in multiple.

Do Angel have any plans to upgrade their Networker fleet to Hitachi
IGBTs?

Who owns the 365s? They're GTO-controlled too.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Who owns the 365s? They're GTO-controlled too.

The 365s are owned by Eversholt Rail.

https://www.eversholtrail.co.uk/upload/class-365.pdf

After a quick Google search I can't see any reference to re-equipping them with IGBTs like their 465 counterparts, the only big news in the press is the fleet getting ETCS Level 2 for the ECML.

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/t...-contract.html

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Schnuzelbug

In article ,
(Christopher Jolly) wrote:

Who owns the 365s? They're GTO-controlled too.

The 365s are owned by Eversholt Rail.

https://www.eversholtrail.co.uk/upload/class-365.pdf

After a quick Google search I can't see any reference to re-equipping
them with IGBTs like their 465 counterparts, the only big news in the
press is the fleet getting ETCS Level 2 for the ECML.


http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/t...e-view/view/ev
ersholt-awards-etcs-first-in-class-contract.html

Some of the fleet maybe. Most are going to Great Western when the 700s are
in service.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Some of the fleet maybe. Most are going to Great Western when the 700s are
in service.

They'll also be ETCS Level 2 on the Great Western*, meaning all GN\GWR fleets will have it installed.

* http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...tract-for-gwml

The class 365s on the GN are being replaced by ex-Thameslink class 377/5 Electrostars on the conventional KX-Cambs/Peterborough/Kings Lynn routes, which in turn will be cascaded by class 700s on the Thameslink route.

The class 700s will work alongside the GN on the new intra GN-Thameslink services (i.e Cambridge-Brighton).

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Schnuzelbug

In article ,
(Christopher Jolly) wrote:

Some of the fleet maybe. Most are going to Great Western when the
700s are in service.

They'll also be ETCS Level 2 on the Great Western*, meaning all
GN\GWR fleets will have it installed.

*

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...-etcs-grip-3-c
ontract-for-gwml

The class 365s on the GN are being replaced by ex-Thameslink class
377/5 Electrostars on the conventional KX-Cambs/Peterborough/Kings
Lynn routes, which in turn will be cascaded by class 700s on the
Thameslink route.

The class 700s will work alongside the GN on the new intra
GN-Thameslink services (i.e Cambridge-Brighton).

About half the 365 fleet will remain on the GN alongside the 377/5s. It's
the 317s and 321s that are going.

Saw a 700 on the GN for the first time this evening, north of Finsbury Park.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Saw a 700 on the GN for the first time this evening, north of Finsbury Park.

First visit to the new Hornsey depot?

I presume it must have came from Three Bridges via the WLL/NLL then Camden Road Incline to the ECML.

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Schnuzelbug

In message , at
10:16:38 on Sat, 23 Apr 2016, Christopher Jolly
remarked:
Some of the fleet maybe. Most are going to Great Western when the 700s are
in service.

They'll also be ETCS Level 2 on the Great Western*, meaning all GN\GWR
fleets will have it installed.

*
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...arded-etcs-gri
p-3-contract-for-gwml

The class 365s on the GN are being replaced by ex-Thameslink class
377/5 Electrostars on the conventional KX-Cambs/Peterborough/Kings Lynn
routes, which in turn will be cascaded by class 700s on the Thameslink
route.

Do you think that some of the services really will migrate from 365 to
377 to 700, rather than changing from 365 to 700 in one go?

The original plan was for 377s to start being used on Kings Lynn
services starting now, but I'm not holding my breath (they've already
bailed on the "Network wide smart ticketing by last September).

The class 700s will work alongside the GN on the new intra
GN-Thameslink services (i.e Cambridge-Brighton).

The original plan was for Peterborough services to go to Horsham and
Cambridge to Tattenham Corner, but I see it's now Peterborough to
Horsham and Cambridge to alternating Brighton and Tattenham Corner.

What happens in 2018 is anyone's guess!
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Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message ,
at 10:16:38 on Sat, 23 Apr 2016, Christopher Jolly
remarked:
Some of the fleet maybe. Most are going to Great Western when the 700s
are in service.

They'll also be ETCS Level 2 on the Great Western*, meaning all GN\GWR
fleets will have it installed.

*

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...d-etcs-grip-3-
contract-for-gwml

The class 365s on the GN are being replaced by ex-Thameslink class
377/5 Electrostars on the conventional KX-Cambs/Peterborough/Kings Lynn
routes, which in turn will be cascaded by class 700s on the Thameslink
route.

Do you think that some of the services really will migrate from 365
to 377 to 700, rather than changing from 365 to 700 in one go?

Services will migrate from 317 & 321 to 700. I have a feeling the plan is
for the 321s to go first.

The original plan was for 377s to start being used on Kings Lynn
services starting now, but I'm not holding my breath (they've already
bailed on the "Network wide smart ticketing by last September).

The class 700s will work alongside the GN on the new intra
GN-Thameslink services (i.e Cambridge-Brighton).

The original plan was for Peterborough services to go to Horsham and
Cambridge to Tattenham Corner, but I see it's now Peterborough to
Horsham and Cambridge to alternating Brighton and Tattenham Corner.

What happens in 2018 is anyone's guess!

The 700s will be limited to semi-fast and slow services (8 car trains
stopping at Foxton will be fun) so it will still be faster to take a fast
train to King's Cross, Victoria Line to Victoria and Southern to Gatwick &
Brighton. Crazy.

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Colin Rosenstiel