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On 2016\05\06 10:15, Mike Bristow wrote:
In article , wrote: As always: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9DjO-_rT8 Cool! Now, why don't Network Rail try that? It is cool. Does it work during daylight hours? Wouldn't just a simple traffic light work as well? A sulphuric acid curtain would work better. Seriously, surely the point of these crashes is that the bloke thinks that even though the sign/detector/water curtain thinks that he's too high for the bridge/tunnel, he thinks that he'll squeeze through with half an inch to spare, and a lot of the time he'll be right. So no matter how visible you make the sign, the crash will still happen. The only way to stop them is to detect the height of vehicles and then lower a physical gate so that the driver knows that even if he could theoretically squeeze under the bridge, he can't get past the gate. Or put up an electronic toll sign that tells drivers that vehicle LLxxLLL will be fined the cost of a bridge strike even if they manage to squeeze through. |
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In message , at 13:57:00 on Fri, 6 May 2016,
Basil Jet remarked: surely the point of these crashes is that the bloke thinks that even though the sign/detector/water curtain thinks that he's too high for the bridge/tunnel, he thinks that he'll squeeze through with half an inch to spare, and a lot of the time he'll be right. It's much more likely they just forget what they are driving (how high etc). -- Roland Perry |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... In message , at 13:57:00 on Fri, 6 May 2016, Basil Jet remarked: surely the point of these crashes is that the bloke thinks that even though the sign/detector/water curtain thinks that he's too high for the bridge/tunnel, he thinks that he'll squeeze through with half an inch to spare, and a lot of the time he'll be right. It's much more likely they just forget what they are driving (how high etc). Exactly. The various "hanging is too good for 'em" pundits here need to consider that the driver is dealing with a combination of the deck height of the trailer, the height of the container, and quite possibility the tractor unit may affect the height as well. Nobody is questioning the fact that the lorry driver is responsible for making sure it will all fit, but given the opportunities for mistakes to happen it's a wonder there aren't more incidents of this nature. For example, it's possible that the driver passed under the same bridge with a smaller container in one direction, and then swapped it for a taller container - or even a taller trailer/container combination - for the return journey. What happened is comparable with a signaller setting the wrong route for a train and then the driver accepting that route. Surely that *never* happens, does it? There but for the Grace of God, etc. etc. -- DAS |
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In message , at 15:59:31 on Fri, 6 May
2016, D A Stocks remarked: For example, it's possible that the driver passed under the same bridge with a smaller container in one direction, and then swapped it for a taller container - or even a taller trailer/container combination - for the return journey. One of the Ely bridge bashes a couple of years ago was like that - a local tradesman (plumber I think) had been driving to and fro several times a day for years without incident, and then someone bought him a new van which was very slightly taller... Then there was this chap (not visible) driving into Ely who apparently got under the first half of the underpass by the level crossing, then chickened out at the second. The police and local Railtrack people (visible) helped him let his tyres down at which point he made it through the second half. I have no idea if they did him for obstruction, but as it was a PCSO I don't think they can ticket someone for that. http://www.perry.co.uk/images/ocado-ely.jpg -- Roland Perry |
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