On 09/05/2016 17:45, Paul Corfield wrote:

The crucial issue is whether the 3 caps are hard wired into the card
and system design or if there is flexibility to add more caps within
the system.

Isn't part of the point of the new back office system for contactless
that it can be told to do more and cleverer stuff?

If there is flexibility then yes, broadly, an hourly cap
works *provided* you don't care about whether people can make a return
journey for a single fare within 1 hour.

That has long been possible on Tramlink (within 90 minutes, maybe?).

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In message , at
18:38:29 on Mon, 9 May 2016, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
The crucial issue is whether the 3 caps are hard wired into the card
and system design or if there is flexibility to add more caps within
the system.

Isn't part of the point of the new back office system for contactless
that it can be told to do more and cleverer stuff?

But doesn't it still do no capping at all (or am I out of date)?
--
Roland Perry

On 09/05/2016 18:38, Arthur Figgis wrote:

On 09/05/2016 17:45, Paul Corfield wrote:

The crucial issue is whether the 3 caps are hard wired into the card
and system design or if there is flexibility to add more caps within
the system.

Isn't part of the point of the new back office system for contactless
that it can be told to do more and cleverer stuff?

Yep, ditto my thinking. (Hence Monday-Sunday caps on contactless and
whatever else may yet be to come.)


If there is flexibility then yes, broadly, an hourly cap
works *provided* you don't care about whether people can make a return
journey for a single fare within 1 hour.

That has long been possible on Tramlink (within 90 minutes, maybe?).


70 minutes for contactless/Oyster, but only one change, i.e. using two
trams. It's 90 minutes for paper single tickets (still available at tram
stop ticket machines).

It also allows for one free change from some local buses which feed the
tram in the New Addington area (used to be T-prefixed bus routes but the
bus network was remodelled recently so the T-buses are no more) -
however again this is just one free transfer, i.e. feeder bus+tram, so
feeder bus+tram+tram is two fares.

All outlined on this page (inc list of feeder bus routes):
https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares/bus-and-tram

If the Oyster system isn't flexible enough for the 'hour hopper' ticket,
then I could imagine the 70 minute one free transfer being implemented
instead (i.e. copying what happens on Tramlink). Not what was in the
manifesto, but arguably close enough.