On Tue, 31 May 2016 13:31:56 -0500
wrote:
In article ,
(Offramp) wrote:

On Tuesday, 31 May 2016 09:14:25 UTC+1, Optimist wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2016 05:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Offramp
wrote:

A while ago I got on a bus which went to Mill Hill East. It went up and
up and up and up.

But which bus route has the highest vertical climb?

The road from Anerley to Crystal Palace Parade is one of the
steepest.

I used to often take the 249, which includes the steep climb past the
Rookery, between Streatham and Crown Point. Some buses strain a bit
going up that.

Dog Kennel Hill was famous for the special arrangements for the trams to
cope with the steep gradient. But there seem to be no special arrangements
since the trams were replaced by buses.

Rubber tyres - steeper gradients. The fact that most city buses are underpowered
probably doesn't help but unlike trams they won't have any problems with
traction.

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Spud

On Tue, 31 May 2016 21:19:41 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:31:56
on Tue, 31 May 2016, remarked:
A while ago I got on a bus which went to Mill Hill East. It went up and
up and up and up.

But which bus route has the highest vertical climb?

The road from Anerley to Crystal Palace Parade is one of the
steepest.

I used to often take the 249, which includes the steep climb past the
Rookery, between Streatham and Crown Point. Some buses strain a bit
going up that.

Dog Kennel Hill was famous for the special arrangements for the trams to
cope with the steep gradient. But there seem to be no special arrangements
since the trams were replaced by buses.

The steepest hills I've seen trams operating on are in Lisbon. Some of
them are simply amazing.

There was a tram in Italy - might have been Genoa, too lazy to google - that
I think Portilo went on that required a push up a hill by a cable driven
donkey beause it was so steep.

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Spud

On 01/06/2016 09:19, d wrote:
a cable driven
donkey

The mind boggles...

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:25:55 +0100
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 01/06/2016 09:19, d wrote:
a cable driven
donkey

The mind boggles...

)

Turns out its not Genoa but Trieste:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trieste-Opicina_tramway

Thats a very long cable pulling a lot of weight up a very steep hill. Not sure
I'd be too happy going on it tbh. Wonder if the wheels have enough grip to
hold everything in place long enough for everyone to get out if the cable fails.

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Spud

On 01/06/2016 10:03, d wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:25:55 +0100
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 01/06/2016 09:19, d wrote:
a cable driven
donkey

The mind boggles...

)

Turns out its not Genoa but Trieste:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trieste-Opicina_tramway

Thats a very long cable pulling a lot of weight up a very steep hill. Not sure
I'd be too happy going on it tbh. Wonder if the wheels have enough grip to
hold everything in place long enough for everyone to get out if the cable fails.

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Spud

Aha - I was thinking of equus africanus assinus, aka the common donkey,
with some sort of rope and harness arrangement dragging the tram up a
steep hill.

Turns out I've made a bit of an ass of myself...

On 2016\06\01 11:27, Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 01/06/2016 10:03, d wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:25:55 +0100
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 01/06/2016 09:19, d wrote:
a cable driven
donkey

The mind boggles...

)

Turns out its not Genoa but Trieste:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trieste-Opicina_tramway


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOJz_aeN9bA

On 01/06/2016 11:31, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\06\01 11:27, Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 01/06/2016 10:03, d wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:25:55 +0100
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 01/06/2016 09:19, d wrote:
a cable driven
donkey

The mind boggles...

)

Turns out its not Genoa but Trieste:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trieste-Opicina_tramway


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOJz_aeN9bA

Wouldn't filming it descending be more interesting?

On 01/06/2016 09:19, d wrote:

There was a tram in Italy - might have been Genoa, too lazy to google - that
I think Portilo went on that required a push up a hill by a cable driven
donkey beause it was so steep.

Sounds like Trieste.


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:47:40 +0100
wrote:
A descending tram pushed on the above ground dummy while the counter
weight in its tunnel was raised up the incline. When the tram
ascended the system then assisted the tram back up.

Looks pretty complex to maintain. Odd place to put a buffer stop in that
picture - on a steep hill.

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Spud

On 2016-06-02, d wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 07:47:40 +0100
wrote:
A descending tram pushed on the above ground dummy while the counter
weight in its tunnel was raised up the incline. When the tram
ascended the system then assisted the tram back up.

Looks pretty complex to maintain. Odd place to put a buffer stop in that
picture - on a steep hill.

Go through the buffer stop, tram will end up in the harbour, so not an
odd place at all.

Eric
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