Recliner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:44:51 +0100, David Cantrell
wrote:

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 02:07:30AM -0700, solar penguin wrote:
On Monday, 13 June 2016 08:59:16 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
But I wonder why you cite Croydon, which does have TfL
services, rather than Bromley and Bexley, which don't?
Just to be pedantic: Bromley has TfL London Overground services
from 3 stations in the borough.

Apart from the old East London line, isn't the Overground charged
as if it were a National Rail service?

No, TfL sets the fares, and the mayor can freeze them. LO also honours
the Freedom Pass all day, unlike other NR services.

Even then it is not that simple. Take the following Z1-2 fares

LO Hackney Downs - Liverpool Street 2.70 / 2.20
NR Wandsworth Town - Waterloo 2.70 / 2.20
LU Archway - Bank 2.90 / 2.40
NR+LU Wandsworth Town - Bank 4.30 / 3.70

LO currently charge the same as the NR rate so will it be frozen or
not? As for the NR+LU fare, will this be increased in full, or will
they try and split it out, freezing the LU portion while raising the NR
portion as normal?

Also for interavailable routes such as New Cross Gate - Sydenham,
Southern may have grounds for complaint as any fare freeze will lose
them revenue, depending on the terms of the agreement with TfL they may
be able to veto any freeze on their routes.

Peter Smyth